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September 19, 2014

Sethite Theory: "Certain Men Crept In Unawares" & The Church Buys It!

     There are days when the spiritual component of my life just screams for attention.  Enough of this world, already!  So, I just have to speak about matters that have much greater consequences than the latest headlines.  
     A few weeks back, I published a post titled "How Much Longer? (As It Was In The Days of Noah).  Needless to say, it caused quite a bit of controversy and generated a spirited conversation amongst the Body of Christ, and with the secular population.  But there is much more that needs to be said about this topic, and I believe it is quite relevant to our national discourse.
     As Steve Quayle has so often said, "Genesis 6 is the Rosetta Stone of the Bible."  In case you're not quite sure what that means, he is saying that Genesis 6:1-4, specifically, is the key to understanding a mystery that has been kept secret from the Church for centuries.  And I believe that it has profound implications to what is going on in our cultural and political arenas.  Let me explain:
     How many times have you been asked these questions:  How can you believe in a God who would order the Old Testament Israelites to indiscriminately kill all the men, women, children and animals in Canaan?  Why would your God send a Flood to kill all mankind, yet save Noah and his family?  How can you worship such an angry God?  Without understanding the true implications of Genesis 6:1-4, it is difficult to understand the nature and actions of God throughout the Old Testament, and the culmination of His Son's existence in the New Testament.
     So, let's get right to it!  Genesis 6:1-4 reads:  When the number of people started to increase throughout the fertile land, daughters were born to them.  The divine beings saw how beautiful these human women were, so they married the ones they chose.  The Lord said, “My breath [Spirit] will not remain in humans forever, because they are flesh. They will live one hundred twenty years.”  In those days, giants [Nephilim, in the Hebrew] lived on the earth and also afterward, when divine beings and human daughters had sexual relations and gave birth to children. These were the ancient heroes, famous men.  
     I have chosen the Common English version of this passage because it is the most straightforward and renders the most accurate understanding as experienced by ancient rabbinical sources, the early Church fathers, and those men who translated the Septuagint.  Other versions that read "sons of God" and "daughters of men" have served to confuse the issue.  To me, it is pretty obvious that the Scripture is referring to Fallen Angels who mated with earthly women and produced hybrid children, who were famously gigantic.  (And for those who will say that Jesus said angels do not marry, I agree.  But He also says they will be like the "angels in heaven."  This does not mean they can't take come to earth, assume human form and have sex.  What about Hebrews 13:2 that says people have entertained angels without even knowing it?)
     However, it is not my intention that we re-hash the arguments from that past post.  I believe it is now important to understand how the Church might have come to misunderstand this passage; who was involved; and how it has served Satan to divert the blame.
     To begin with, many in the Christian Church have been taught that Genesis 6 revolves around the "Sethite Theory."  I maintain that of all the deceptions Satan has slipped into the Church, this is his greatest, because it causes us to miss his plan throughout history, and will result in many being misled in the End Times.  This doctrinal deception single-handedly hides the one common thread that puts Genesis to Malachi in a proper context, and explains the direction in which this world is headed as we begin the countdown to Christ's Return.
     The common thread is that there is a Fallen Angel/Nephilim DNA connection throughout Scripture (see Genesis 3:15), in which God is trying to thwart the ongoing genetic manipulation by Satan and the Fallen Ones to keep Christ from being born. We see this theme in God's mandate to destroy the indigenous peoples in the Canaanite wars; it explains the harshness and specificity of the Law as it pertains to idolatry, intermarriage, and the sanctity of blood.
"Cain Slays Abel" by Rubens
      So, what is the "Sethite Theory"?  In a nutshell, it is the belief that Genesis 6:1-4 refers to what happens to mankind after Cain kills Abel.  The line of Seth was pure and faithful, while the line of Cain turned rebellious and ungodly.   The "Sethite Theory" states that verses 1-4 refer to a failure of Seth's line (the "sons of God") to remain unpolluted by Cain's wicked daughters (the "daughters of men").  This doctrinal theory proposes that Genesis 6 is based on an interpretation that "the sons of God" were "the line of Seth"; and not "divine beings" or "Fallen Angels".  Furthermore, it projects that the "daughters of men" were "the wicked daughters of Cain."  But that's a pretty big assumption to make, don't you agree?   And no one has ever been able to explain how, or why, the children of these marriages between Seth's and Cain's lines would become giants.  As Chuck Missler has expressed, "Since Jesus prophesied, 'As the days of Noah were, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be,' it becomes essential to understand what these days [of Noah in Genesis 6:1-4] included."
     So, if the "Fallen Angel" view of this Scripture was favored at the beginning of the Church Age, how did the "Sethite" theory come into being?  This is where it is important to know the history of our faith and how it might have gotten off-track.
     In the Third, Fourth and Fifth centuries, as the Roman Empire began to turn from their pagan gods towards the Christianity of their conquered lands, they also began to modify and restyle some of the foundational tenets of the faith (that's the way Satan does it!), as they made Christianity the state religion of the Roman Empire.  Men of great reputation and standing began to criticize and attack "the fallen angel" interpretation of Genesis 6.  As the Church of Rome began worshipping angels and adopting the principle of abstinence, an understanding of evil angels having sex with women just didn't fit the narrative.  In fact, because so many of the early Christians believed the Fallen Angel account, the Catholic Church declared it heresy to teach this view, under penalty of death.
     Paganism was hard to root out, and not all adopted the truth of Christianity.  According to Wikipedia, Julian became Emperor of Rome in 361 A.D., and was the last non-Christian Emperor.  He "attempted to revive traditional Roman religious practices at the cost of Christianity, and his rejection of Christianity in favour of Neoplatonic paganism" [from the school of Greek philosopher Plato], earned him his nickname, "Julian the Apostate."  His worship of the Greek and Roman gods as "divine beings" came into stark contrast with the implications of "Fallen Angels" in Genesis 6.
     St. Augustine, in The City of God, while espousing the Sethite view, admitted that creatures of the woods had sexually assaulted women: "There is, too, a very general rumor, which many have verified by their own experience, or which trustworthy persons who have heard the experience of others corroborate, that sylvans and fauns, who are commonly called incubi, had often made wicked assaults upon women."   Could these creatures have been born of Fallen Angel DNA?  Thus did the Sethite Theory proliferate into the Middle Ages.
     Currently, the Mainstream Seminaries and The Church continue to perpetuate this deception, because they don't know the Truth!  And the opinion of secularists and atheists of an Old Testament psychopathic God continues to flourish and is unexplainable by modern Christians.  But one must read the Scripture as it is written.  "The Sons of God" is, in the Hebrew, B'nai HaElohim, "Sons of Elohim," which is a term consistently used in the Old Testament for angels, and it is never used of believers in the Old Testament.  If God wanted us to believe that the sons of Seth mated with the daughters of Cain, He would have told us so.
     You may be asking why this seemingly mundane topic is of such importance to me, and how Satan is using it to further his goals.  First of all, how many times have you heard an unbeliever contemplate embracing Christianity, but their stumbling block is always, "I can't serve a God who indiscriminately kills women and children"?  If they knew that God was, in reality, wiping out all the Fallen Angel DNA from those Canaanite tribes so that His Son could come through a pure line, it might clear up their false impression of "an angry God".  If they knew that the Fallen Angel "incursion" was Satan's plan to thwart God's warning that there would be "enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her Offspring; He will bruise and tread your head underfoot, and you will lie in wait and bruise His heel."  Satan was trying to strike first and pollute the offspring.  "Bruise" in the Hebrew can mean "overwhelm" and "heel" can refer to the act of  "supplanting" or "restraining".  Clearly, there was to be a battle between the offspring of Satan and the offspring of the woman [representing Israel, and ultimately the Messiah].  When you have this piece of the puzzle, it explains why Jehovah warned the Israelites throughout the Old Testament against co-mingling with the peoples of the conquered land, and to keep the blood sacrifices sacred.
     Satan has been successful in inserting the false Sethite doctrine into the Church, and this one aspect and misinterpretation of Scripture is keeping untold numbers of unbelievers from embracing God.  It is incumbent upon those of us in the Body of Christ to have the proper knowledge base and understand the Fallen Angel theory and the Nephilim of Genesis 6.  If we are to serve the Kingdom of God here on earth, we must know this information so that we can answer those questions of doubt, and bring these unbelievers into the fold.
      We must do what the Mainstream Church will not do.  We must take the Fallen Angel doctrine to the masses who are so mesmerized with The Discovery Channel's Ancient Aliens, and show them the truth.  Ironically, this wildly popular TV show promotes 97% of the Fallen Angel theory, but comes to a wrong conclusion.  The 3% of their theory that tells viewers the Fallen Angels are our "creator gods" is a big percentage point, when Salvation is at stake.  Who do you think those Ancient Aliens/Fallen Angels owe their allegiance to?
     I simply do not know why the Church scholars and Seminaries, as a whole, can't read the Hebrew and discern the deception in the Sethite Theory.  A first-year Bible student, with a Strong's Concordance, can clear this up in 15 minutes of honest study.
     I believe that liberal theology has been embarrassed by the Fallen Angel view, and for that matter, any supernatural aspects of God, which make Him a Bigger God than they can imagine.  They can only continue to perpetuate the false Sethite doctrine... all to the delight of Satan,who is the father of lies.  People like Steve Quayle, Rob Skiba, L.A. Marzulli, and Doug Elwell have done exhaustive research on this subject, and are blowing the Watchman's horn from the wall in regards to this issue, and we all owe them a great deal of gratitude.
     But the time has come for us to crawl up on the wall ourselves and wake up our small inner circle of Believers.  If not the Truth, now ... then when?  The deception permeates every sci-fi movie and TV show, whether it be tempting the impressionable to welcome the Ancient Aliens, commune with Vampires, or rush to alter our DNA through advanced and "life-saving" alternatives.  If we do not understand the truth of Genesis 6:1-4, then the human race will once again become corrupted and seduced by the deception of the Angel of light.

Jude 4:  "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."
   
   

47 comments:

  1. I thank God that you have the courage and wisdom to sound the alarm on a subject that you know will turn popular opinion against you....including with mainstream Christianity. The whole bible is like an incredible puzzle. I am absolutely enthralled with taking a few pieces, fitting them together with others, and gradually seeing the entire, fantastic picture emerge! But you cant throw away half the pieces and make sense of the full picture...you might get the 'idea', but not the whole picture. NOR can you get rid of some pieces and replace them with pieces you like from different puzzles. It just wont work! So glad that you desire pleasing God more than pleasing man!!! Tracydee

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  2. Wonderful read, The Knowledge of the truth is an awesome gift from God.

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  3. Great article Belle....I am myself looking into this and doing my research....it really does seem to help make sense like you said about some of the questions you mentioned in your article. All of a sudden some things start to make sense where they didn't before....keep up the good work and God bless....Mike

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  4. I have listened to Steve Quayle for over 7 years now. Not one thing this man says has ever happened, not one!
    I guess if someone says a million things eventually he might get one right. As of 7 years later, he's drawn a complete zero.

    Want to please God? Then just do good, that's it. There's no secret, it's that simple.

    You either do good things or you do bad things, The complications come from the Churches and the Greedy Pastors who live off their flock, and twist and turn things to get more money from the flock.

    Just look at:
    Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Jesse Duplantis, Joel Osteen, Chuck Hagey, and too many more to list, who all travel in million dollar jets, live multimillion dollar mansions, drive numerous extremely expensive cars, yet give hardly NOTHING back to the people or the communities they rob every Sunday!!!

    Shame on them, and anyone who supports such evil robbery of their flock!

    Try reporting on that SALVATION AND SURVIVAL!!!!!!!

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    1. Actually, I have.... many times. You just need to do a little more research about this site... you will find what you are looking for.

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    2. Actually, my biggest concern about the truthfulness of this article is....referring to Roman Catholicism as Christianity, could not have been further from the Truth...

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    3. "Just look at:
      Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Jesse Duplantis, Joel Osteen, Chuck Hagey, and too many more to list, who all travel in million dollar jets, live multimillion dollar mansions, drive numerous extremely expensive cars, yet give hardly NOTHING back to the people or the communities they rob every Sunday!!!" These men reside in temples made by human hands, yet God states that He doesnot dwell in them. He tells His people to "Come out of them my people!" Meaning Babylon. 1 Corinthians 3 vs 18-20 18Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

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    4. for sure they are lining their pockets with a lot of greenbacks

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    5. Why do Christians always have their firing squads in a circle? Wasn't it Mahatma Gandhi who said 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.' - So sad, yet so true. I have heard Mr. Quayle on the Coast-to-Coast radio program 8-10 years ago and I've never once, not once ever heard him set a date for when his warnings were to take place, just that these things are soon to come.
      I do not listen to or watch any of the other false teachers as they preach another gospel, and in no way should they be associated with Mr. Quayle who would agree with you about them! In re: to pleasing God. There is no good thing that dwelleth in me. I'm not good enough. I am perfect because it's not what I have done or will do, but what Christ has done in and through me. I'm perfect by His bloody robes of righteousness. We are at war! Take up the full armor, with the shield and sword, and fight the enemy! Don't throw stones at our brothers and sisters in Christ. Would that they would be one, as I am in you and you are in me...John 17. Much Love!

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    6. If you think Steve Quayle is that bad then why have you listened to him for 7 years? I have listened to Steve Quayle for a few years, and for the most part he's been quite accurate. His predictions are not so much what's going to happen on such and such a date, but more along the line of trends that have taken place over time. And I am sure as time rolls on most of what he says will take place.

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    7. I find these same beggars in sheeps clothing disgusting. They do not teach the Word Of God. What they teach are lies and the Scriptures are very clear that what they do is perverted and evil. They have adulterated the truth with their vanity and for filthy lucre sake. Anyone that would sit in those houses of so called worship and pay their love offerings are too lazy to read the Scriptures for themselves. I find the so called ministers disgusting but I find their silly followers even more disgusting. Here it is in a nutshell. Cain was the offspring of Lucifer that is why cain is not in Adams genealogy. The sin in the garden of eden was that Lucifer beguiled (wholly seduced ) eve. Cain is the physical offspring of that unholy union. Cain murdered Able because he was already jealous. Jealous just like his father satan. Cain was born evil. Seth was pure and was the son of Adam and Eve, The pure seedline was pure because it had not been contaminated by the fallen angels or nephilum that did come down and did take wives and did have children by them (geber) the giants. The bloodline of seth was pure and did not have the blood of the fallen angels. Seth was pure and the Israelite race was told to never mix their seed with the offspring of cain. Because cain was of a contaminated seedline as Lucifer was a fallen angel. The Israelites transgressed and mixed with the offspring of cain. The flood during Noahs time was sent to wipe out the evil from the face of the earth. However, the fallen angels came again after that. They always appear on mt hermon. They taught technology to man, and much knowledge that man should never of had. Doubt me, look at mankind today and there is nothing in our legacy except evil and destruction. So, where does all this lead us? The fallen angels are returning with Lucifer. The plan is to set him up as Christ on the temple mount into Jerusalem. People are expecting the true Christ but will worship this false satan as Christ because the ministers they listened to deliberately fed them lies. They know nothing because they have never bothered to study the word of God for themselves. They will worship Lucifer. This is the hour of temptation that will fall upon the whole earth. A flood of lies that most will believe. The technology is there for Lucifer to perform his phony miracles. It is called hologram technology. The right manufactured crisis will bring Lucifer down to save us. So yes, it is coming. Don't believe me. Check it out. Its all there in the Scriptures but if that is something you cannot do than please check out Lucis Trust, The UN, and the Vatican Lucifer Telescope. Find out what these entities have to say about Lucifer. So yes
      The beast is the NWO. The beast has four horns. Horns are power symbols. Those are political, economic. educational and religious. The beast suffers a deadly wound. Lucifer heals it. Revelations is quite clear that Lucifer is cast down to earth. He is along with two hundred thousand thousand of the fallen angels with him. Get ready for the biggest smoke and mirrors show you have ever seen. DO NOT WORSHIP LUCIFER AS THE CHRIST. If you are in the flesh it is not Christ. At the return of Christ we are all changed instantly in the twinkling of an eye into our spiritual true natures. So if you never know anything and you never understand church or religion just know this. Lucifer comes first pretending to be Christ. He is supernatural. He is going to be so believable that if it were possible even the very elect would be deceived. DO NOT WORSHIP LUCIFER AS THE CHRIST HE IS A LIAR, May God bless and keep you at that time.

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  5. Belle... Good morning... This is my first time on your site, but not my last....

    Thank You for this clear and succinct teaching on this important topic.

    Mike, in Cuenca, EC.

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  6. Actually both the Sethite AND Fallen Angel DNA creating nephilim theories are correct. You just need to trace farther back in Genesis. Cain was the seed of satan as a result of Eve partaking of the forbidden "fruit" (sex) from the "tree" of the knowledge of good and evil (satan). Does anyone seriously think God would be wroth that His Beloveds ate a piece of fruit?

    Then she "knew" Adam...and Cain and Abel were born at the same time - fraternal twins. This is the beginning of the enmity between sons of man (Adam) and the serpent's seed...and the reason Cain slew Abel. The birth of Seth insured the potential for the birth of Jesus, the Savior, to happen, and there is no mention anywhere in the bible that Cain was of Adam's lineage.

    Because Cain did not choose his lineage - God allowed him the chance for salvation through repentance...which he never chose. He wandered to Nod and chose a wife (from the many people/races who were created before Adam and Eve on the 6th day...) This understanding is completely supported by scripture, and one of the deepest truths misrepresented by an apple and a snake. Getting these facts correct - regarding the genesis of the seeds of man and satan - puts the rest of the bible into crystal clarity for those who understand. God bless you in Jesus' name.

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    1. ^This.

      Now if people would only understand that Paul is/was such a man crept in unawares.

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    2. I think if Satan had sex with Eve, God would have told us. He didn't mix words with the Fallen Angels. The fraternal twins theory is far fetched to say the least, and any discussion of earlier people created on Day 6 is irrelevant to this discussion. Frankly, the idea of people created before Adam and Eve only serves to promotes the idea of racism similar to occult ideas of a master race.

      Discernment if required when digging for truth. What is relevant and important, what only muddies the water.

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    3. That is so wrong. God was mad at adam and eve for partaking of the fruit for 2 reasons.
      1. Disobeying God. It's prevalent throughout the old testament that disobeying God led to punishment. It's the same reason all the angels that follow satan are cast out, and why we'll have such a perfect eternity with the Lord; because everyone will obey Him.
      2. The fruit gave them knowledge. They now understood good and evil, the bible even specifically says that they cast them out of the garden so they couldn't eat from the tree of life as well. There's no twisting the "fruit" here. The bible speaks it as it means it.

      @Jane

      You are a fool. Did Christ preach redemption through His blood? Or forgiveness of sins through belief in His suffering and subsequent resurrection? NO. Christ told the Jews "the kingdom has come" because where He is, the kingdom is. They rejected the King and the Kingdom, and the inheritance was passed to the gentiles, preached through Paul. All of the rest of the disciples were told to go to the Jews and preach to them. Paul preached to us, gentiles, non-Jews.

      Paul preached the Gospel of Christ (as He was taught it by God), remission through Jesus' shed blood and forgiveness through belief in His sacrifice and that He was raised again. Paul gave us many admonitions and teachings, and rightfully so. The time of the Jew's was put on hold, and it was now the time of the gentiles (until the start of the tribulation, at which point the focus is back on the Jews and Daniel's 70th week is completed). Paul is the Moses to the gentiles. To say he's a usurper, or false teacher, or anything like that is flat out denying Christ.

      Matthew 12:25-27 "And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges."


      Pauls faith and belief is shown through his fruit. By our fruits will we be known. Paul is one of God's children.

      I hope this helps you understand despite my harsh tone. I'm just tired of hearing this anti-Paul stuff as if it were legit. Logically it does not make sense to exclude the only one who preaches salvation to us. I understand alot of feminist movements do it too because Paul states that women are to be below man, but is that not how God stated it in the beginning since Eve ate of the fruit first? She was put below Adam, and he was to rule over her, and every man over his wife.



      @the article writer

      I had to stop reading as soon as you said that the "for men entertain angels unawares". That is a reference not to sex. Sex was referred to as "knowing" someone. The reference of "entertain" is clearly saying that we don't know when a person we encounter will be an angel of God, so we treat everyone as if they are brethren, lest we insult an angel of the Lord. There are plenty of stories strewn across the web where people believe they have encountered angels and didn't know it.

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    4. Anon, may I please first refer you to Matthew 5:22.

      No, Did Christ preach redemption through His blood. And too, I am not a Christian. I worship YHVH, The Father and Eloah of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I follow the example of Yahusha such as following all of the Commandments, Statutes and Holydays of His Father. You see, I believed Him when He asked if we believed the * original Moses. * - John 5:46

      Paul is the * Moses to the gentiles? * No, I'm confident that the hand-picked Apostle Peter was told to teach the gentiles. The Council of Nicaea are the ones who appointed the blasphemous infiltration of Paul. Indeed, Paul's faith and belief is shown through his fruit. You will get no argument from me there. Before you harshly reprimand me on Peter's 'beloved' scripture, please do your research on the topic.


      I'm just tired of hearing this anti-Paul stuff as if it were legit.

      Have you ever considered that this is important and that YHVH is waking his people up and they are screaming from the rooftops concerning the matter? Can you not hear the roar of the lion of Juda?


      I hope this helps you understand despite my harsh tone. I'm too am tired of hearing this pro-Paul stuff as if it were legit. Furthermore, I also understand that it isn't the easiest thing to hear. Studying to show one's self approved sometimes does require you to re-examine and re-evaluate everything you feel you know and understand. However, if you already know everything, you have nothing left to learn.


      "Logically it does not make sense to exclude THE ONLY ONE who preaches salvation to us."

      Really? By how many mouths must we hear testimony? I promise you, the answer isn't ONE. There were/are TWO (2) WITNESSES, hand-picked by Yahusha; their names were Matthew and John. Not Mark, not Luke and certainly not Paul.


      I am not a feminist either. Just the same, I'll continue to be a woman of strength, integrity and honor according to YHVH's way rather than Paul's. In trying to live wholeheartedly according to Proverbs 31:10, life becomes much more joyful.


      Should you wish to see my research on the subject and why I conclude what I do, you are respectfully invited to click on my name and view it there. It's also okay if you decline.

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  7. This is a great article full of biblical truth, many will be sure to dispute it, absolutely convinced they are 100% correct. Many cannot understand this is the truth, I believe somehow this is beyond their mental ability/capacity to comprehend, maybe supernaturally by God, I don't know how. Remember when Jesus said to the pharisees "you cannot understand my words because you are of your father". This is the same thing a biblical truth many cannot understand. There is also a greater mystery which has been hidden and explains why Jesus said what he said. My point here is don't expect everyone to embrace this article, many can't and many are not {"saveable"}. Don't argue or debate because you cannot win no matter if you use truth and logic or not.

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  8. Cudos to you, Belle! I am a Christ-follower and believe the Bible to be 100% accurate and literal. My wife and I just had this discussion last night about the various Genesis Ch. 6 theories. I am a strong advocate for the angel/human interbreeding theory, and base some of my argument on the Apocryphal books of FIRST Enoch, Jubilees and Jasher, as God wanted the truth to be revealed via the Dead Sea Scrolls. I use those books' content to supplement my Bible reading. Here is the importance of your research: the Bible comes full circle regarding our space/time compendium and its message. As you adeptly point out in your article, the Days of Noah are being repeated. Mainstream transhumanism and genetic engineering is here, and soon their will be human/machine and/or human/animal hybrids among us if they are not already here. The return of the Nephilim is now, and it is my theory that Satan's objective is to so alter homo sapiens as to make them non-human and therefore not able to enter the kingdom of God. It is so crucial to go back, as you mentioned, and study the original Hebrew/Aramaic/Greek terminology used for a given English equivalent in our various Bible translations. Some are poor (sorry readers, but I find the KJV to be one of the worst). We miss so much as Christians by not doing so. Keep up the good work. Pray as you read the scriptures and ask God to reveal His Truth. He will truly open your eyes.

    His Servent

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    1. It is such a shame that the so-called Apochryphal books are discounted by the Church. Although not considered Canon, they provide some background history for a fuller understanding of God's Word. When God's inspired Word mentions the Books of Jasher and Enoch, then that is a hint that we are to increase our study. And I do not think that it was a coincidence that the Dead Sea Scrolls (which give credence to much of these ancient books) were discovered so close to the Jews being back in their homeland. "I love those who love me, and those who seek me, find me." Proverbs 8:17

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    2. The scriptures are: Is,was and will be which can only be interpreted by the Holy Spirit is past, present, and future.

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    3. Good post. The set of writings called"The ANTI-NICENE Fathers" shows that the ancient Church of CHRIST ( 100-300 AD ) all knew about and were very familiar with what really happened in Genesis 6. The 10 volume set is not an easy read, but provides marvelous information on the original faith and practice of the followers of the SON of GOD. It is a blessing, NOT just for more facts to argue over, but for a personal strengthening.They had access to an ancient writing the we now call "1 ENOCH", which was removed from accepted scripture in the 4th century by the organized church and was lost to the Church for centuries.. The removal of this writing from accepted scripture has left a gap in understanding of what actually took place in Genesis 6. The removal of the book seemed purposeful.

      The age that we are living through is going to bring us face to face with some terrifying realities. Our ONLY help as followers of CHRIST is to draw very close to HIM as HIS disciples. HE is our ONLY HELP in the days that are now on our door step. Genesis 6 is here in different cloths.

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  9. hello steve, first of all i look at your stories and find some of them interesting. but i do not accept most of them. i know that the the richest people in the world, there are five brothers and numerous relatives, own the economies of the world and hate true christianity. but i do my own studies and refer to the concordance and i must say that what i have discovered will make you listen! i will write a book about these things which i know which have been revealed by scripture and i can prove all that i know through the scriptures. the word in hebrew for nephylim simply means bully. the cainites were bullies. josephus the historian wrote about these people. if you think that character is not recorded genetically, think twice. those people which god had killed were mentally and genetically ruined and god will in their resurrection , just like a computer, delete and clean them up. god says that no angels have ever ben begotten by him, the issue is not to be begotten by man, the issue is to be begotten by god only through his spirit as he begat jesus and the saints, which are a few because there are two resurrections, and the first one is for those of the firstfruits resurrection. i believe angels can manipulate human genetics as humans also can, but for angels to procreate with god i cannot believe that. angels are not genetically arranged as we are steve. they have no genetics to recreate themselves by. they can manipulate human genes though. that is how lucifer altered the animals of the world before adam, and there were people also. who do you suppose the twenty four elders in the book of revelation represent? ask yourself this question steve, what is the difference between humans and angels? when you realize the difference, you will understand that humans can corrupt, but they will be cleaned up in the second resurrection. angels like lucifer cannot be cleaned up, it is the mind, not the body. human minds can be cleaned up like computers because we are made of building blocks which can be arranged. angelic minds are more permanently programmed by choice. we are the only species because of physical matter which can be rearranged genetically. that is the beauty of not being made like the angels. contact me if you want in your comments. ray

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  10. I had a short vision in the night few days back, I asked, what is the meaning of this, what are they doing.
    "resurrecting a nephilim" was spoken.

    Now i don't trust any vision i've ever had, because a number of them were fulfilled, because i believed them, but with one iota missing/changed. but i mentioned this one because i do not believe we are able to mix with the angels now.

    some evidence for that is in the book of daniel, the clay and iron.
    further evidence for that is the story of Nimrod, who was the first to become as one of the gibboreem (sp?)
    thus, he was the man who became as a god, and God had to put a stop to that.
    so he came down and mixed up our languages (DNA)

    that said, i do not believe that cain was an offspring of satan.
    reason being that the text explicitly says adam knew his wife Eve and gave birth to cain, then abel, then seth.

    now a certain theory explains that we are all half breeds today, genetic experimentation going on in egypt, which is why God took his people (hebrews) out of there could be an element of truth to this, idk..
    Some proponents of this theory explain that the half breeds get raptured, the full breeds stay behind and go into the 1000 years.
    this is really too much speculation for me.

    you know when you get something from God that won't be swallowed by men, its a tough thing.

    right now i have a few key scriptures that i've determined to be added to the text.
    "except for sexual immorality" is one.
    and yes, i fully expect to be judged by the judgment i decree. but if you've divorced your wife and married another, you are living in sin.

    some say if you die in sin, you go to hell.

    what matters more? speculation on end times material or starting the discovery process on sin?!

    i will state it is a Wise thing to ask God concerning what he has against you.

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  11. Jesus faced these fallen ones, during his ministry , he spoke about them , as the tares spread amoungst the wheat.Also as a brood of vipers, who the gates of Heaven were closed to them , and ,they did every thing to make sure those who could enter were misinformed i.e. taught falsely , to prevent them from entering ! Sadly these demons i.e. nephillim, incarnate over and over, seeking out positions of power . to do their mischief . To corrupt any thing good, and to make something bad, even more evil ! Look at what is going on in this country, and ponder it for a while? Look at their actions and you can pick out the soulless ones. They are the ones who harp on how bad, good men are, all the while condoning evil men ! And doing any thing they can do, to destroy our country! If we would only do as they say, the world would be a much better place! Hah, They would surely love to destroy our country , and drag us down to hell with them! See them for what they are evil seed !

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  12. Skoshi

    WHY Theologians REJECT the Fallen Angel/human women Teaching:

    My brother-in-law is a Lutheran minister about 80 years old. Before that he worked many years at a Christian college in letter answering dept.-- questions about Creation/Dinosaurs/ Flood/ Historical Geology. He has a large personal library on such.
    He rejects the idea that Fallen angels could cohabit with human women because (1) Genesis: God created each KIND after its KIND--setting the limits/boundaries on their ability to reproduce by crossing KINDS. (2) Jesus statement: ..".in the Kingdom, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels in heaven". So: Jesus SAID SO! (END OF DISCUSSION)
    How to explain the contrary evidence then: (1) ANGELS are "greater in POWER & MIGHT &TECHNOLOGY than the physical Creation, but not as capable as GOD. Therefore FALLEN SINFUL Angels COULD mess with "crossing KINDS" as the book of Enoch plainly describes, overriding the laws of the physical Creation. (2) Jesus was referring to OBEDIENT Angels in HEAVEN who OBEY the boundaries of God's LAWS. The crossing of FALLEN Angels with human women could only result in a "BASTARDIZATION" producing MONSTERS--which is exactly what is described in Genesis. The word "BASTARD" is in fact translated as such in Enoch as the original use of this term.

    Furthermore, stubborn theologians who reject the historical evidence of mythology, archaeology, history, cultural memory, as well as the plain exegesis of Gen.6, word for word, apparently completely FORGET the most BASIC FOUNDATIONAL BELIEF of their OWN FAITH: The MOST HIGH GOD begat through a human Virgin Woman the perfectly formed SINLESS 'SON OF GOD' JESUS THE CHRIST! HE had the ABILITY to do what ANGELS could NOT do--and do it perfectly, without flaw.

    The Greeks/Romans and PAGAN world took for granted that certain ancestors has been conceived by "the gods", and were part human/part "god"--such as Gilgamesh, Romulus & Remus, Hercules, Achilles, The Titans, even Alexander the Great. So to them the idea that Jesus could have been conceived by a GOD was not such a far stretch as it seems to be for certain "modern" prejudiced, liberal, close-minded theologians.

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  13. you keep going Belle I like your truths and the way you say it

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  14. If all the intermingling of Genesis 6 brought about the flood to "clean the slate" and then the Israelites (who were NOT "Jews") were required to physically do the same thing to the extant people, then what exactly did the flood accomplish -- in the long term?

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  15. They'll be destroyed just like the others from Biblical times. Nothing "creeps" past God.

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  16. Holy God Almighty is the Shepherd and Guardian of my soul. I am in the shelter of His wings and secure in the knowledge that He is My Refuge and My Fortress.

    I abide in the shadow of the Almighty. He is My God, in whom I trust! And I know it is He who delivers me from the snare of the trapper And from the deadly pestilence...All else is a distraction and much speculation in the puny thoughts of mankind.. We see things dimly, merely with human eyes and a very small standpoint. God sees the whole, bigger picture.

    The days of Noah was just as commonplace in everyday things, and also about as evil as today with people disobeying His Ten Commandments. And, as today, tweeking and destroying everything God has created. Everything! Worshipping other idols, other images is adultery and fornication against Holy God. What we spend our time thinking about becomes our idol whether it is our car, kids, rebellious giants or space creatures.

    For me, I have no interest in the UFO, space aliens, giants and freaky zombie theories from human speculations, man's traditions and distractions, and only seek to know My God, the One Who shed His blood.

    All those "theories" of men only discredit themselves. It takes away from the Glory of God and puts the emphasis on human distractions. Anything that takes our thoughts away from Almighty God becomes our idol and against His commandments - Exodus 20 ---

    “You shall have no other gods before me.

    “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments."

    Today we bow down to many "images" even ones that speak. Godless scientists of today have turned many things into strange creatures from foods, to robots..These cannot save anybody!!!.Only faith and obedience in Christ Jesus.

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    1. Isaiah 28:9-10 ... "9 To whom will He teach knowledge? And whom will He make to understand the message? Those who are babies, just weaned from the milk and taken from the breasts? [Is that what He thinks we are?]
      10 For it is [His prophets repeating over and over]: precept upon precept, precept upon precept, rule upon rule, rule upon rule; here a little, there a little."

      Each of us must decide how willing we are to grow in the knowledge that the Holy Spirit deposits in our hearts and minds. Everything you say is true, but remember that the Lord also said "My people perish for lack of Knowledge" ... Satan's deception in these last days will be cunning and smart; it is incumbent upon us Christians to be able to see and know how he might deceive us. It is the same deception that he has used since time began; only now clothed in modern technology and cultural idols. Ezekiel 33 is also very specific about our responsibilities to warn others when "the sword of judgment" comes against a land. You may be called to speak of the Glory of God and rest on that; others of us are called to be that warning watchman. Let's not disparage each other's work for the Lord. It is ALL for His Glory!

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    2. Why would you assume that anyone who chooses to keep their faith and Holy Spirit led obedience in Jesus Christ that they are without knowledge for wanting to worship Him in His truth? I am not disparaging you and appreciate that you do not do so to me.

      Holy Spirit leads us to God's truth as He reveals it over time to each of us who seek Him. Like you I do not want anyone's blood on my hands....Ezekiel 33. When we know God's truth we can quickly see the false preachers and teachers.

      God's spends many more words, throughout His word, from the beginning to the end - Genesis to Revelation - on how we are to love Him, how we are to know Him, reverence and worship Him, than He does about creatures. If that is your current focus and in encouraging others, so be it.

      God is in full control of everything going on and He will set His limits on satan's doings. He will reveal to His saints, each of us, what He chooses to reveal. I choose to keep focused on Holy God and what He did on the cross. We will all have to give an account in the end.

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    3. Absolutely! We are led to do His kingdom work as He calls each us... Romans 12:6: "We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us...". It can be hospitality, preaching, teaching, prophesying, etc. I did not mean to offend you by using the word "disparaging", in the sense of "play down" or "undervalue". But that is what I felt in your original comment about the "theories" that you have "no interest in". I simply wanted us to agree that each of us may be doing different work for God, as He has called us to do. Please forgive me, if I insulted you, and let's both continue to follow the Holy Spirit's guidance in our lives. God Bless you!

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    4. There are differing views on the reason for naming the place where Jesus died upon the cross, “the place of the skull.” I heard a teaching several years ago that if correct adds an interesting piece to the puzzle of the war of God against these fallen creatures and the fallen angels that adds to God's Glory is the story of David & Goliath. If one understands that as a giant Goliath and his brothers were of nephilim blood then the fight becomes even more important than we had previously understood. In 1 Samuel 17:51 the Bible says that after killing Goliath David cut off his head. Then in verse 54 it says that David took the Philistine's head and brought it to Jerusalem. At that point in time Jerusalem was a Jebusite city, but what if David was acting prophetically. Goliath was from the Philistine city of Gat. Later Jesus would be crucified in a place called the place of the skull - Golgotha. There is a huge possibility that that skull for which that place was named was the skull of Goliath of Gat. If you truncate the name Goliath and add his town's name switching the vowels (which is pretty understandable change since Hebrew really doesn't have real letters for most of the vowels, but instead uses a system of dots or marks near the letters) and add the "ha" on the end you get - Golgotha!! That would mean that Jesus’ blood dripped from the cross and also prophesied the collapse and utter defeat of these dark creatures right onto the place of the defeated skull of His enemy. Whether or not it was the exact place we will have to wait for Heaven to discover, but I believe the point is made anyway when David, a man after God’s own heart and forefather of the true Messiah, took that nephilim skull in ruin to Jerusalem for disposal.

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    5. Yes! This same truth was recently revealed to my husband, and when he shared it with me, the Holy Spirit convicted me of its truth. What an awesome God we serve, who chooses to increase our knowledge and understanding in these times! There is so much more that I cannot wait to discern!

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  17. I shall not spend many words among this group as there are some whose understanding has thoroughly ossified and my words would be of no use to them. (Pr 10:19 In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.)

    Belle, Jane and a couple of others, I applaud your willingness to open your eyes and verify (determine the truth of) the world YHVH has put us in, He expects that of us. Where Yeshuah is, there is freedom. No one should limit your pursuit of the truth. Never stop developing your knowledge, understanding and wisdom. (Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.) The times we will face shortly ahead require people with great and deep understanding. There is a level of understanding that YHVH is willing to give you that will shock and disturb the mainline religionists to their core. You have shown that you can deal with this kind of knowledge. (1Jn:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.)

    I have been through more than 16,000 hours of study since 2001 (still ongoing) on a multitude of topics which most Christians have no comprehension of because they have ceased to develop and mature.

    I leave you with a question that hints at some of the things that can be known in depth. And yes these things are important to know.

    The Question: What do the following things have in common?

    the asteroid belt, the fact that 90% of craters on the surface of Mars are on one side of the planet, the existence of at least 25 locations on Earth where the soil has been vitrified in the absence of volcanic activity, the Eden story, why Cain is not counted in Adam's lineage, UFOs, common ancient stories about gods visiting the Earth, the stories about giants, the Great Flood story, cities, governments, war, pathological and sociological differences in humans, systems of money, world powers, political systems, the biblical term "darkness", the idea of "hidden wisdom", the feet of iron and miry clay and much more.

    --TruthWalker
    2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

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    1. Thank you for your encouragement, and like you, there is so much more that I would like to say to my readership, in the hopes that they would do their own research and grow in the knowledge and fear of YHVH. I delight in the Lord each day as He reveals more and more to my seeking heart.

      And I love your question ... these are topics that I am exploring (the Serpent Seed, the Angel Wars, corrupted DNA, etc.) and I am slowly introducing these concepts to my blog. My spirit says the time is short for mainstream Christians to come out of their traditional denominational doctrines and learn the significance of these topics. But I gain much hope when I receive comments like yours and so many others on this blog -- I am not alone and our numbers are growing! All Glory and Praises to God for revealing Himself to us!

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  18. the big question did flesh and blood devils or jinn walk the earth in plain sight before the flood and did they live at Nod as the Persians believe. did vain marry a devil and the cainites were part devil or jinn, is man a mix of devil and angel. did Noah marry the cainite devil naamah, and this union of genes made us. are we the munster collective.

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  19. Hmmm . . . This is my first time here . . . somewhat taken aback, really, not so much by the notion that angels and women cohabited a la a close reading of Gen 6:1-4 but at the weight of freight this simple and straightforward notion carries in both the article and the following comments.

    If the notion that God is mean because of the Flood and because of the later purging of Canaan keeps a person from encountering the righteousness of God in the Bible or in Life, then so be it. I cannot imagine how such a person, already predisposed to dismiss God as irrelevant for Life and beneath contempt, would sit still for a full blown explanation of the ills of Sethite-ism and the glories of theories of demonic sexual activity all wrapped around a dose of Early Church History. Such a person does not care. Besides, the Holy Spirit has been successfully convicting sinners of their sin and of the righteousness of God for two thousand years with nary a reference to this issue. He got me out of my life of sin and I did not have to consider what was at stake in a close reading of Genesis 6:1-4 on the Entrance-to-Eternal-Life Exam.

    Now, Belle, I appreciated the encounter with your thinking on this passage. I even agree. Nevertheless, I'm not ready to enter the lists as a champion for your conclusions and their consequences. I still don't know what significance to give the passage in the larger Biblical landscape. Suggestions for significance here in the original posting seem overwrought in their own right and also seem to have brought out far too many tin foil hat theorists and theological obsessives to encourage me to press the scriptures beyond what little information it gives in its narrative context. There’s so much in God’s Word which I can account for, make use of and rejoice in.

    Sorry. Do press on, though. The time's late, the flood tide of evil is upon us and you have a fine eye for analysis.

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    1. I will try to give you a brief answer as to "what significance the passage has in the larger Biblical landscape." Just because this passage has been misinterpreted and/or ignored for the last two thousand years, does not mean that the Holy Spirit is not revealing the Truth at this time in history because people run the risk of being deluded and deceived by Satan through DNA issues like Transhumanism -- or the younger crowd being seduced by Ancient Aliens as our Creators (mimics Fallen Angels being involved in the creation of the "Giants"/Nephilim.)

      I agree, there IS much in God's Word that is easy to understand and rejoice in. But the Bible also tells us that "My people perish for lack of knowledge." The Holy Spirit may be moving in your life in a different way than He is in mine, and we each most likely have a different purpose to fulfill for God's Kingdom. I never ask anyone to "champion" what I present, or even agree. However, it is MY blog (Laughing), and I'm going to write what I am prompted and inspired to write about. I appreciate you taking the time to comment.

      I would like leave you with a thought to ponder ... There was a reason that Jesus responded to His disciples questions about the End Times by pointing them (and us) to "As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be at the coming of the Son of Man." To me, that's a pretty strong directive that we should figure out what it was like ... and not accept the "easy" answer.

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  20. I'm loving this blog!!! I do have a question; if someone has the thorough research of the matter I will be very grateful. In my own research I've seen that whites (including myself) carry the "Neanderthal" DNA and I've seen people link it to the Nephilum DNA .Which actually makes a lot of sense... and explains to why (Black Hebrew Israelites) are saying Whites are the devil. Not saying I agree ...the THEORY just makes a lot of sense. Yet, is very unsettling for someone as my self that does not doubt her personal relationship with God for a moment. But Neanderthal DNA is present in me ....so what is the truth? And if they are one and the same would it not make all who carry the DNA destined for doom ?

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    1. Very interesting question, Carrie! I will write a blog on it in the next week or so… but here is my short answer: Based on the definition of the Nephilim in Genesis 6, and how God saw them in verse 5 ("The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually"), I would say that even IF Neanderthal man was a descendant of the Nephilim, there has been enough "watering down", so to speak, of the DNA through the generations that our hearts can discern between good and evil. We are NOT thinking evil thoughts "continually", and therefore are able to qualify for salvation. Make sense? Of course, this is only my personal opinion, but I will try to explore it in more depth in an upcoming post. Feel free to ask more questions-- I love dialoguing with fellow Christians over deep concepts!

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  21. Belle Ringer, I agree with you article completely as I understand it. Yes, sons of God (angels = fallen angels had sex with human women and their off spring were giants. No question. My question for you is how did they survive the flood? I have been studying this for over two years. I suggest that they survived the flood through Ham's wife. All of the tribes that God told Joshua and later David to destroy can trace their ancestors back to Ham. What do we know about Noah after the flood? He planted a vineyard, got drunk and lay naked in his tent. That is the most important thing God felt was most important about post flood Noah for us to remember? He lived for 350 after the flood. It must have some unbelievable significance. Please feel free to email me at xpeagleeyes.1970@gmail.com. I'm Mike

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    1. Mike, I love questions like yours! It is my opinion that you are on the right track with the descendants of Noah theory. I would suggest that you buy Rob Skiba's books "Archon Invasion: The Rise, Fall, and Return of the Nephilim" and "Babylon Rising". They go hand in hand and give a Biblically-based explanation that debunks the Sethite theory. I think you will find them very interesting and thought-provoking.

      As for your Noah question, Genesis 9:20-27 indicates that Noah's nakedness was the result of a sexual defilement or act. When you do a word study on "nakedness" (see Leviticus 18:7-8, Leviticus 20:11, Habukkuk 2:15), you get a picture of what really happened here. Ham took advantage of his father's drunken state to defile his own mother.

      When Noah realizes what happens, he curses that part of his family line. This curse illustrates future trouble coming with Nimrod/the Nephilim. The uncovering of Noah's nakedness was Ham's attempt to usurp his father's authority. Ham appears to have raped his own mother and created Canaan, who was cursed. I believe Noah curses Canaan, because he had already blessed Ham, and the Hebrew culture says he cannot take back that blessing. The curse is strong because through Ham's line, via Cush, comes Nimrod, who the Bible says "began to become a mighty man". That term "mighty man" is Gibborim in Hebrew, which means an enhanced super human being from either God's side (like David's mighty men) or the dark side (like Nimrod and the Nephilim).

      (There's a whole study you can do on Nimrod and who he became and how he has influenced the world to this day). Back to Noah. Genesis 9:24 says, "When Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his youngest son had done to him -- defiled his (Noah's) wife -- he said, Cursed be Canaan.... Blessed be God." And that curse came down through the years and resulted in the people in the land of Canaan following false gods and being a threat to the Israelites. Make sense? I hope this has given you an answer to your question, or if you are like me, it will generate more questions, and your knowledge of the intricacies of the Bible will grow. It is a fascinating revelation of our God!

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  22. Ok angels cannot procreate right?
    But then when they " take " human form they have the ability to change theirs intern system to then procreate ...?
    Hmm... something seems to be missing here.

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    1. Mark 12:25 says, "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven". The Bible does not say that angels can't pro-create, only that they do not marry ... much like humans who procreate outside of marriage. This is a common argument made by those who don't know what the Bible says.

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