A Modern Woman's Perspective On The Kingdom of God on Earth


August 1, 2014

How Much Longer? (As It Was In the Days of Noah)

     OK, this post should put me squarely in the "crazy camp", but I just have to be honest ... There are days I wake up and wonder, "How much longer can this world survive?"  And, what will our lives be like when everything is torn asunder?  You see, for the last several years, PLW and I have been blessed with the time and the spiritual desire to dissect the Bible and discern its message for us in these times.  The world is groaning and the time is near ...
     It's not just the political world with its scandals and corruption; nor the endless wars that seem to reach into every corner of the globe ... they are not simply "rumors of wars" anymore.  People are killed and tortured, having their heads cut off; and much of it in the name of religious ideology.  Planes full of innocent people are bombed out of the sky, and women and children are used as human shields in an attempt to drive a whole nation of people "into the sea".
     But I'm also aware that the lust for oil is at the heart of many of these conflicts.  If you dig deep enough under the propaganda, you will usually find a trail that links you directly to a massive oil reserve.  This includes all the pseudo-scientific data on global warming (or is it cooling these days?); there is always someone, or a group of "someones", who have become millionaires by peddling their brand of "caring for the globe".  In the meantime, nations send thousands of their young men to die -- not really for patriotic and sovereign reasons, but as a strategic move on the chess board of oil consumption.
     It's not just mankind that is in turmoil.  The very earth is threatened.  We have huge sinkholes appearing all over the globe; the latest in the spotlight is at a place in Siberia called "the end of the world".   Then there are the scientists at NASA who are warning about powerful coronal mass ejections (CMEs) from the sun that could potentially destroy earth.  And even "Mother Nature" seems to be a little confused; weather events happen out of season, and the violence of storms seems to be mounting.  There is a growing concern over the New Madrid fault line in our nation's heartland, as well as the heating up of the earth's core at Yellowstone National Park.  And let's not forget that the "Ring of Fire" is showing signs of activity.  This an area where a large number of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions occur in the basin of the Pacific Ocean, and could potentially affect the Pacific rim of several continents.
     Where am I going with all this doom and gloom?  Let me start by saying that this wasn't the original design for mankind OR the planet.  Everything God created was originally good.  You don't have to be a Believer to comprehend this fact, because those with even the simplest understanding of the Scriptures know that things were perfect here on planet Earth until Satan infiltrated the Garden and set into motion a war for all ages.  I just don't think that Christians fully understand how that war has been waged.
     Let me attempt to explain my thoughts ... When Satan tempted Eve to disobey God, the judgment was swift and prophetic by the Creator of the Universe:  "I will put enmity (hostility, friction, hate) between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her Offspring."   That statement has been misunderstood by centuries of Christians and Church leaders.
     Satan has known God's plan from the beginning: to dwell among His creation in personal relationship.  And it has been the Devil's desire to disrupt that relationship at all costs.  He knew God would eventually have to send His Son to redeem us from the ways that he, Satan, would introduce.  If he could disrupt the genealogy and eventual birth of God's perfect Offspring with his own corrupt line, then the world and its inhabitants would worship him, Satan.  That's where Genesis 6:1-4 comes in.  The fallen angels, who followed Satan, came to earth and corrupted the daughters of men, introducing the unholy DNA into the human line.  They are the "giants" (or in the Hebrew, Nephilim) we see in verse 4.  But God protected a line of men from his destruction of mankind (Noah and his descendants), and through their line, He sent His perfect Son to reclaim us.  But Satan has not forsaken his plan, and that's why Jesus says in Matthew 24:37, "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."
     Just as God proclaimed back in Genesis, there has been an all-out war throughout time between God's children and Satan's children.  It is now at the boiling point, and it affects all of God's creation; from mankind, to the ecological and geophysical systems, to the stars in the heavens.  Satan's plan to deceive mankind and infect them with a corrupted gene pool has been known by every civilization throughout history.  Genesis records the Giants in the land of Canaan, while Babylonian, Greek and Roman mythology refer to the "Titans" and the "Olympians", who were "children of Uranus (Heaven) and Gaia (Earth)."
     Early petroglyphs show ancient societies bowing down to "star people" or "star men", and the mythologies of our American Indians celebrate long-ago stories of visitations by hybrid entities.  Today, we hear stories of "alien abductions" and unbelievable stories by women of having their eggs removed and harvested.  These kinds of scenarios have become popular in our entertainment culture; think of the movies E.T. and Close Encounters of A Third Kind, and the new TV show, Extant, starring Halle Berry as a woman astronaut who comes back from space impregnated by an alien.
     Do you think all of this -- from the Genesis 6 story, to Greek and Roman hybrid gods, to centuries-old drawings on cave walls, to sci-fi entertainment -- is just the product of over-active imaginations?  Do you think they are just myths and legends that have managed to maintain a common theme for thousands of years?  Or could Jesus have been giving us a hint of what was to come, when He said "As in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man"?
     It is my humble opinion that secular humanity and lukewarm Christians who reject the theory of the impregnation of human women by fallen angels, are willingly buying into the Satanic deception that is presented on the History Channel's Ancient Aliens.  On this hugely popular show, they actually present the hypothesis that aliens will show up one day, claiming to be our creators. And they will have only our best interests at heart; they will rescue us from the wars and destructions of earthly humans.  All we have to do is become one with them ... Isn't that the same thing that Genesis 6:1-4 tells us?  There was a huge deception of the human race then, and there's another one coming soon, using the same lie that Satan has perpetuated from the beginning.  And God told us as much ... that there would be enmity between man's offspring and Satan's!
     You see, there truly is hostility between those of us who are born again into the Spirit of life that is Jesus Christ, and those who fall for Satan's Deception.  The Second Coming of Jesus is Satan's final downfall and defeat.  He is going to do everything he can in the short time he has remaining to convince humanity that we want to become one with him... up to and including taking his Mark.
     I know I have laid out a long and complex theory, but I am so worried that there will be Christians who will be tempted to believe Satan's temptations.  After all, Adam and Eve knew God intimately; they walked in the Garden with Him --- and they still fell for the lies!  Please don't dismiss this theory because you have not heard it in the sanctuary of your mainstream Church.  Satan has managed to control the revelation of Scripture, and the soft-sell Gospel of Prosperity and Grace comes nowhere near warning us of what time it is on the Prophetic clock.  Do your own research!  I do not expect you to take my word for it.  Read the books of Daniel, Revelation, Jude and the Book of Enoch, which is referenced in the Book of Jude, and which was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.  There's a reason this book has been revealed for this time!
     Finally, I would point you to all the excitement and research in the area of transhumanism.  At the center of this new technology are experiments with genetic manipulation.  Isn't that just another name for what happened in Genesis 6?  The game plan hasn't changed... it's as old as the Creation.  I just want you to be ready to stand against the lies of the Enemy.

1 John 3:8    "The person who practices sin belongs to the devil, because the devil has been sinning since the beginning. God’s Son appeared for this purpose: to destroy the works of the devil."

93 comments:

  1. Your beliefs align with mine. It takes much study to reach these depths of understanding, sadly it is a small percentage of Christians, who are willing to take the time. When we understand history it is easier to see into the future. Couple that with the prophecy given to us by God and we will see, there is nothing new under the sun. Satan is not called the great deceiver for nothing, he earned that status. We workmen must remain in the field to save as many as possible. Time is near, stay close to God, for he is the only protection we have against the stronger power of Satan.

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    1. I know that we are not alone in our understanding ... God is increasing the knowledge of those who will take the time to seek Him. We will need this discernment to speak to those who will not understand what is coming upon the earth -- both Christians and non-Christians, alike! Thank you for letting me know that there are others like me and PLW to whom God is revealing great things.

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    2. Here is the real truth about the open border agenda, open your eyes, it was posted in a 2011 prophecy! The following is an excerpt.....
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      "But, through My servant, Linda Newkirk, I have often told you the plans of the enemy; and I tell you again, that you might prepare. The streets of the cities will run with blood because of race wars. The countryside will run with blood because of race wars; and you are only seeing the beginning of all that is at hand. For, their plan is also to import many violent Mexicans and to bring the Mexican drug wars over the border, to ignite race wars of one kind, or another, all over this nation".

      "Hear Me, oh you people of America. Hear Me; for a fire has been kindled. This fire is the destruction of the U.S.A.; and this fire will not be stopped until you are brought down, oh you harlot nation of America".

      But, still I plead with you, oh My people. Repent, or perish!

      I am your Father Yahweh, yea Jehovah, Most High God.

      As witnessed, dictated and recorded this 6th day of August, 2011,

      Linda Newkirk

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    3. Great article. I appreciate the truth I see written here. You have written an excellent summation of the times in which we live. Just one thing though that really drives me crazy, especially from Christians . Mother Nature? Really? There is no mother nature and though I realize most only consider it a harmless term, I find it is an offense to my Lord. Please consider editing that term from your wonderful article. We, as Christians, should not conform to the terms and ideology of this world

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    4. Donna, I just assumed that Christians would know I was writing tongue-in-cheek (based on the message of the post), and I thought it just might lend some credence to non-Christians, who believe in "Mother Nature". Perhaps if I add the quotes in the article, everyone will discern what I meant. Thank you for your comment.

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    5. The solution for those who consider world events as important need to just turn away and take happy pills. Maybe they can move to Colorado or Washington state where marijuana is legal and smoke their worries away. Fear not, for we have President Obama and Pope Francis to lead and protect us and shield us from the evil ones. Ebola should not concern you, Fukushema is not important, public debt is not a danger, health care for all has been solved, congress knows our needs and responds and the news provides all the information we need to live a happy and productive life. Joel Osteen fills in the blanks when doubts arise and all is well with the world. Now that I am fully medicated, I no longer worry.

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    6. Wow, my family tells me I don't "get" satire, however, I think I just got it! Surely your sarcasm is not lost on the fact that we are living in incredibly trying times and must use much discernment and testing of ALL spirits while prayerfully committing everything to the Lord. Thanks for helping me understand satire like never before! ; }

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    7. The depths of understanding? Are you sure you really understand how deep the rabbit hole goes? Those who believe they have the understanding are many times just as ignorant as those they judge as being blind.

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    8. Excellent as a long time bible student you have nailed it. This is what the scriptures tell us unfortunately its not what most churches teach about. While there is a need and a purpose for teaching the good news and repentance of sin. Its a shame its often at the expense of equally important deeper understanding of things and why we are in the state we are in. I'm sharing this link with my fellow bible students.

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  2. Well written. I wonder sometimes, as I spend a lot of time planning for the future events, i.e go low tech, get out of populated areas, stock up etc, that simple prayer and acts of kindness aren't the most powerful tools we have.

    God's speed ahead

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  3. The Holy Spirit is moving people in my life to do the research. Lately, I have had two friends from different states who are Christians ask me to help them with information regarding the end of days since its been my study for some time. Even some of the non-Christians are noting that something is different in the times which we live and are asking questions. Plus, have you noticed how many historical artifacts recently are being discovered pointing to the verity of the Bible? Truly, Jesus is right at the door.

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  4. I just found your site and this is the first article I read! I am like Wow! She is exactly right! I have been born again since 2008, never grew up in main line churches, I don't attend a church, I just found really good Biblical teachers who taught the truth! Thank you for your article, because you are absolutely 100% correct. God Bless you!

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  5. Jesus/Yeshua simply said that eternal life is that they "would know You, and Jesus Messiah whom You have sent"... Gospel written through John the Apostle, Chapter 17. It's all about knowing Yeshua through His Holy Spirit.
    All the other issues of ancient history and modern power struggles can become nothing more than a distraction. The thought of fallen angels having intercourse with women and producing hybrids is folly.
    We are told to fix our eyes and to look to- Jesus! Nothing else in our day will help us draw near in refuge
    from what is unfolding in our generation. http://garybertnick.wordpress.com

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    1. Nothing in God's Word is folly. He tells us in his Word (yes, even in the New Testament) that these things happened and that they will occur again immediately prior to Jesus' return.

      Yes, He told us to fix our eyes on Jesus. He also said to watch for His return! We are to be in the world (but not of the world) not to duck and cover or seek refuge. We are each given tasks to do and we should be light in this dying world more now than ever before. That the mainstream media of this age are now glorifying human hybrids (nephilim), transhumanism and fallen angels (just look at the movies released in the last year) is a clear sign that the return draws near.

      This should just add urgency to your desire to share the good news with everyone you know.

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    2. Not folly if you have read the bible and particularly Genesis Chapter 6. God doesn't change and neither does His word. Does the bible not speak of nephilim? God promises His refuge in Psalms 91 along with many other scriptures. We shall see the same things they saw in Noah's time or else God would not have told us so. Hope this helps you, Gary

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    3. Gary, if we read all of Mat. 24, we find the Lord Jesus giving some very sober warnings regarding the horrific times the world will find itself and Christians in particular at the End. The greatest warning to His own is in regard to "deception". In verse 24 He warns; "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." So, our Lord gives strong warning as to the severity of the hour at that time by giving instruction as to what things to be on guard for that the "enemy" will bring against us. The Lord does not use simple and pious platitudes to get us through that dangerous and very dark time which shall come upon the world. Ephesians 6:11 - "Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil".

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    4. Well said! I have been amazed that as I dug deeper into the words of the Bible and discovered the context in which many of Yeshua's instructions were given, I have come to realize that the 10-second explanations of common Bible quotes are very inadequate to prepare us for these times. We must pray for discernment and ask the Holy Spirit for revelation and understanding. Thank you!

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  6. We are told to "look to Jesus", and "to fix our thoughts on Jesus".
    We are told that -"This is eternal life, that we may know You and Jesus Messiah who you have sent".
    All the other stuff is mere distractions from the Light of our focus. Thoughts of fallen angels having hybrid children through ancient women is absurd. Where does our lasting peace come from?

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    1. Our lasting peace comes from Calvary and the blood of Jesus's sacrifice for us.

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    2. Um... It's in the BIBLE..therefore, it's not ABSURD. That's not the author's focus either. Of course, we look to Jesus as we also discern these times as to not be deceived! Belle made a great point about all these entertaining movies with this theme. A wise believer would not simply walk away thinking, "Oh, that was a great movie." And transhumanism is real! Do your research before you claim absurdity. It's people like Belle I trust.. not the KumBayYah Christians that haven't a clue of the times we are living in. Yes, we know where our peace comes from BUT that's not an excuse to bury our heads in the sand either.

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    3. I doubt that any true Christ loving, Bible believing Christian would even want to patronize any of those movies...then again???

      Only the Holy Spirit gives us discernment and when we have the Holy Spirit in our hearts true Christians don't want to fill our brains and minds with mindless, worldly, godless garbage. GIGO - Garbage in, Garbage Out.

      We will know them by their fruit.

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    4. I guess you didn't read the verse telling you to "study to show yourself APPROVED..." or this one: "It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and the glory of kings to SEARCH it out." Proverbs 25:2

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  7. I do not know what else to say Jesus destroyed the devil completely it takes the holy spirit to understand we are free and need to let the world know its for this purpose that Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil

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  8. The whole concept of a spirit being being able to procreate really made my head do a tilt for the longest time. But consider this: everything that God does, Satan has a counterfeit for. Mary was overshadowed by the power of the Holy Spirit, and conceived Jesus. Genesis 6 states that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair, and took unto them wives, whomever they chose. Furthermore, the Scriptures plainly state that they had offspring together, the mighty men who were of old. Physical evidence has been found of their existence, as well as their mention throughout human history.

    I may not know exactly by what mechanism all of this happened, any more than I know those of God's creation. But I do know that Genesis informs me of both.

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    1. Just look at it this way, Satan and the other fallen angels all were present at the creation. They have a great understanding of how everything was made by the FATHER. We are dealing with fallen angels that have ben around before time this earth and all other creation. Our feeble minds can't even imagen the amount of knowlage they have. If we could live for a million years and learn ten things a day we still would be in the dark compard to this evil. Bottom line is we know nuthing and will only know when we are with the FATHER Jesus Crist is the only way!

      Sorry for misspelt words I dont know much.


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    2. Do not apologize! You have much more knowledge than the average Christian! Keep studying!

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    3. Belle,thank you for the article! I was doing my daily check at Steve Quayles site,along with Trunews/hagmanns/marygreeley/infowars/drudge,etc, and came across a link to this blog (bookmarked!) Thanks for your insight! Reminds me a lot of Dr Missler from KHouse.

      He has spoken of and written on Gen 6 a lot. Love his stuff,and love what I have found here in your writing!

      God bless!

      Signed:Mark,a fellow awake and watching on the wall, Christian.

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  9. The first time I heard of transhumanism was from Thomas Horn. He also mentioned the word GRIN technology. Which is, Genetics, Robotics, Information technology and Nanotechnology. After reading and studying about these, my eyes have been opened and I see this almost everywhere, especially TV and movies! Latest example is the movie Lucy.
    The explosion of evil in our country and the world sometimes seems overwhelming. I know from the Word that it's going to get worse. But there is Light at the end of the tunnel!

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  10. Belle, The church leadership as a whole is so far behind the curve Im not so sure we can wait on them to catch up. The amount of knowledge lost regarding spiritual warfare and our authority granted to us by Jesus to engage these fallen angels and their hybrid freak children in whatever form they choose (nephilim,alien greys etc) rest soley at the feet of the church leadership ,.who will answer to God for their sethite deception in Genesis 6 .Folks, the time has come to break out of your prosperity gospel,seeker,once saved, there is no hell, ecumenical emerging pagan worshiping church and get with the program. The time is short, and we need you in the spiritual battle, not in choir practice or some life way canned bible study.Get of your worn out church pew and start engaging the principalities that are the enemy.

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    1. Belle,I Am So Happy To see My Brother's & Sister's In Christ With Wisdom From Above, We Must Take Every Word Of The Bible As , Not Just Pick & Chose what we do Understand Not What we don't, Instead Seek, Search StudyPraying for The Holy Spirit To Reveal to Us The Word & Deeper Thing's Of God with No Private Understanding But What The Holy Spirit Will Give to each of us Who seek, & seek a deeper Walk With The Holy Lamb Of God Jesus. Fallen Ones & Giants Are coming to the forefront,For as was the Days Of Noah Matt24:37 We are hearing Entertainer Having Encounter's Sexual with These Evil Being's The Movie's Bring these Fallen ones to Introduce to The Young To Be Worshiped, We are In A Spiritual Warfare Not against Flesh & Blood but against Evil Principalities In High Place's, They have control of the Air Way's ,In Order To Fight The Battle We must Know WHO! our Enemy Is! Put On The Full Armor of God We will Be fighting in the Ring where we have never been Before,We can't Play Church, Many been on Milk too! Long. Dear Beloved of God The Holy Spirit Gave me Word's To Say to The PLP when I was so Heavy In Heart at who was been Brought fourth To run as Pres, I told Every one I Knew or didn't Know, No! No! Then The Lord gave Me word's I Knew but Never used before, "He Is Fool's Gold" He ware's A Mask,He is Not who He say's He is,He come's to Destroy, I say this Humble In Heart for It was all just as it was Given I hear In The Last days Men Will Have Vision's Old Men Dream Dream's Stay close to The Lord He will Reveal to you Thing's In Truth, & will shine a Light on Evil before Your Eyes Blessing N Jesus

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  11. If the church can't acknowledge that we are even in the end times or the false doctrines of preterism that are so prevalent in lutheran, methodist and many reform churches has so many people thinking that Revelation happened in 70AD . How can they even be engaged enough to broach the subject? "My people perish for lack of knowledge" comes to mind. At some point we must go stand and fight with the truth and hope these 70AD er types can get in the game.Pray the deception is lifted from their eyes.

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  12. Not that I care, but be ready to be called a heretic. Pew potatoes just don't want to go beyond baptism and salvation - wow! Although those things are beautiful and wonderful, there is so much more to be learned and studied to be knowledgeable and victorious in this earth age! May all that read this synopsis of biblical truths, ask the Most High to draw minds into important truths about what happened "in the beginning", so they can comprehend the "end"!

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  13. Perhaps this is on the lighter side - With ebola about to spread globally, for the first time since the black plague killed some 20 million we see the potential to dwarf that number and it is happening right before our eyes.

    I find it interesting to note that at the time of the writing of the Bible, especially the gospels, there was no term for describing a volcano. When Jesus describes the increase of earthquakes, it's my contention that He may have been eluding to volcanoes as well; after all, they do precede volcanoes.

    I have felt strongly for some time that as the day of the Lord approaches we will see something set off volcanoes wherein the earth will shake, tremble and smoke. That something may be from space...that's as far as I'll take that speculation but to my point - the Ring of Fire, when it awakes all across the ring - be ready!

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  14. Well I am afraid this article is only half right. For those who really want to know God's truth let me break it down for you.

    1st correction: Eve did not eat an apple in the garden of Eden and get cursed for being hungry. She had sex with the serpent which is a word that has been misinterpreted for the word magician.
    So it was Satan/magician, who copulated with Eve and produced an offspring.

    First consider the word fruit. It is sexual. Today look at the term be fruitful and multiply. Means sex folks! Second look at how Eve describes the tree of knowledge aka as a being. Gen. 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Since when did eating an apple make one wise? Next consider the word "tree." The bible uses the word "tree" to describe beings in many places. Mark 8:24. Men as trees walking. Isaiah 24:8 trees rejoicing and talking. Get it folks. Once you get the idea that the bible is written in agrarian terminology starting with the Garden of Eden. Wheat Tares, trees, fruit, etc. things start getting clearer. Now lets look at how Eve uses the word "eat". Does the bible use the word "eat" sexually? Yep. Proverbs 30:20 20 "Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she "eateth", and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness." Get it?
    Interpretation: tree - satan being, eat - having sex, fruit - bearing an offspring. i.e. Cain. OR, Eve has sex with satan and produces a baby called Cain. Also look at what Eve says where Cain came from. Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. Not Adam her husband but from a Lord type being who could make her wise. Remember Adam and Eve were innocent up to that point and not wise to things such as sex. So Eve started having sex with Adam at the time but was already impregnated by Satan with Cain.

    So who what happened to Cains offspring? The shallow Christian says "oh it means a person against Jesus." Not so. Gen 3:15 "and I (GOD)will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy "seed" and her "seed;" it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." We all know what the word seed means don't we? Literal offspring. Not a thought process but seed, i.e. children! Uh Oh, says the modern Christian. This guy is going to finger someone and that's just not Christian. Well my friend God's truth is bigger than the both of us.

    1) John 8:44 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. So spend a little time and go back a few verses and answer the question on just who Jesus says these peoples father is.
    2) Thessalonians 2: 14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, Acts 17.5 even as they have of the ( ? ):15 who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us, and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: 16 forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
    3) Rev 2:9 and for those who missed it, it is repeated in Rev. 4:9.
    4) Just who are the Pharissess and Sadduces who Christ keeps calling serpents and vipers?

    Witness the deception. Now it is time for the Christian to either hide their eyes or open them. if you hate me then you are fulfilling Christ's very own words Matthew 10:22.




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    1. Please notice that I never said in the article that Eve eating the apple was the root of the deception. I was wanting to see how many readers had the knowledge, or would connect the dots. You obviously get it! I agree with everything you've said! I was simply trying to feed the skeptical small bites of wisdom, and let them catch up to this truth. If they take the time to read the comments, you will have elaborated on my thesis. Good job!

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    2. Belle - You're responding to a know-it-all. The problem we have communicating with KIA's is that they're arrogant and full of pride of which cannot describe a true Christian who has turned that pride and arrogance over in place of humility through Christ's instruction/command to deny self. All the knowledge in the world does not save a man with so much pride he has to share that arrogance with each posting.

      That's certainly not the way I care to learn from anyone. And for yourself - your admitting you purposefully manipulate your articles is disgraceful and leads to untrustworthiness. - Shame on you!

      Perhaps that's why you two are in tune...one arrogant the other deceptive.

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    3. Wow! How you see so much deception in our comments makes me sad. I did not view Anonymous's comments as arrogant or full of pride. I saw eagerness to inform his fellow Christians and wake them up before it is too late. And as for myself, I am presenting a premise and trying to help people to think for themselves and do their own research. (Read the post again ... I ask people to not believe me and to seek out their own answers). Perhaps you aren't interested in hearing any opinion but your own. I do not harbor any animosity against Christians who do not think as I do ... but I encourage and challenge them to dig deeper than the doctrine of their childhood. I find that many are too comfortable to stand on the sermons of preachers and never actually read God's Word for themselves. As our Lord said, "Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear."

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    4. Anonymous August 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM states that he is going to educate us with God's truth, but he has no way of knowing that his interpretation is accurate. The Bible does refer to real trees too.

      I do agree with some of what he says, but I believe that the trees of the garden were real trees with a spiritual component to them.

      Rev 22 says that the Tree of Life will be in the new Jerusalem bearing fruit monthly.

      I guess how I've always viewed Genesis 3 is that Adam's source was God while he ate of the Tree of Life. God is life and Adam relied on God for knowledge and guidance (His perspective is way better than any human could even imagine). When Adam ate of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, he unplugged himself from God and started acting upon his new knowledge of what is good.

      If you ask 10 different non-believers if something is good now, you will get 10 different answers (many contradicting each other). That is because non-believers to this day judge things through their own view of good and evil. This is what leads to governments doing evil while trying to do good. They are not looking to God for guidance, but to the knowledge that Adam gained from eating the forbidden fruit in the garden. We can quickly see why the world is as messed up as it is!

      Since Adam disconnected himself (and all his offspring) from the pure living source and all of mankind was barred from the Tree of Life, I believe that is why non-believers wander around trying desperately to fill that void with something to try and satisfy what is missing.

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    5. 4) Just who are the Pharissess and Sadduces who Christ keeps calling serpents and vipers?

      Edomite Jews, descendants of Esau, who after losing first-born rights married a Canaanite woman and mixed his Adamic seed with the serpent's.

      Herod was king of Idumea (Edom) and had used his power and influence to place Edomite priests in Jerusalem and throughout Judea. The Gospel stresses that John the Baptist was of Aaron's seedline on both father and mother's side: he was truly the high priest of Yisrael. Indeed.

      The modern state of Israel is an illegitimate and impostor Ashkenazi-Edomite regime. Google < radiation experiment Sephardic children >.

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    6. The anonymous person talking about the fruit being sex is dead wrong in my opinion. He has taken it to the extreme and twisted it to fit his own theory. Backing up the theory with unrelated scripture makes no sense. He does sound like a know it all to me and a deceiver. I am surprised you agree with everything he said after a well written article like that. The Church needs the truth not another twisted interpretation of it.

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    7. I would encourage you to read ALL the comments. I think you will find some additional information that will broaden your view. I know this is a very difficult passage to interpret. It is very illuminating to study Scripture from the Hebrew perspective in which it was written. Also I believe that God is now revealing more knowledge through the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Also the historical books of Jasher and Jubilees (which are made reference to in the Bible, which gives them some credibility) provide important information. The Early Church Fathers , who were closest to the teachings of Jesus, also believed in this interpretation. I am simply not satisfied to ignore this passage, or to accept the simple explanation offered by the Modern Church. As evidenced by the many comments on this post, neither are many other Christians. We all have to pray for greater knowledge and discernment. God Bless!

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  15. Totally agree. Have been trying for years to convince people. I know about what's happening and going to happen but instead of trying to prove me wrong, most, to include preachers, will quote the same verses taken out of context and still cling to the Seth option in Genesis. I don't understand blind ignorance but most of the church I know prefers their righteous ignorance.

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  16. Great earthly perspective. If you are adventurous and want to see the heavenly perspective, try reading the dreams and visions from the website "Sparrowsbarn.com".

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  17. Satan and the Babylonian scribes used pagan names and words to alter the Scriptures and introduce false doctrines to lure followers away from the Word. I Am that I Am = Ehyeh in Hebrew http://askelm.com/doctrine/d980927.htm The deception is unknown to most and discarded as heresy "for lack of knowledge" http://ro-jo-yo.hubpages.com/hub/Yehowshuwa The deception continues with the house of worship or "church" another Pagan construct. http://askelm.com/doctrine/d980927.htm Do your own research on these words to find the true communications for Our Father. http://www.everlastingkingdom.info/article/100/

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    1. “How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie." Jeremiah 8:8

      English Standard Version

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  18. You realize that telling the truth of Genesis 6 and even consideration of a serpent seed point of view makes you a heretic to the mainstream church. The problem with digging in to the scriptures and following all the rabbit holes and becoming led by the spirit is in direct conflict with church doctrine, and the sheeple sitting in church box, fear the way they will be seen by their church. We must pray for the modern churches leadership to move away from doctrine and move toward truth which requires studying word meanings (hebrew and greek) YHWH is very clear on his word.Taking the seminaries and "approved for the masses" doctrine without self study is not standing approved worthy before God.Stay in the fight Belle but be ready for christian arrows to start falling in your general vicinity. The truth stings and it seems it stings most among the mainstream christian.

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    1. I am fully aware that my viewpoint is not a popular one among mainstream Christians. That is why PLW and I do our own study and have removed ourselves from the modern Church model of worship. We gather together with a small group of faithful Believers (as He commanded us) to study His Word, gain knowledge from the Holy Spirit, and equip ourselves to spread the Gospel. Nowhere in Scripture do I see Yeshua telling me that I have to meet in a building on Sunday mornings. In fact, we worship on the Sabbath and honor the Lord's Feasts, which definitely makes us heretics in today's world. But I long to remove myself from the world system and abide in God's system ... and I find myself doing that more each day. I am actually encouraged by the number of commenters to this post ... I see the Spirit moving among God's people, enlightening us and drawing us together. Yeshua can't be far away!

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    2. We also removed ourselves from the modern Church. It has been almost 13 years now. Tried to go back last year & got knocked down again and attacked for not accepting what was coming out of the pulpit. Thank you for letting people know they are ok and can hear from Holy Spirit themselves. Keep doing what you do Belle. I also see the Spirit move among God's precious people. Thank you again

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  19. the Bible clearly says Adam knew Eve and bore Cain.

    it also says both Adam and Eve took from the tree and did eat.
    so you're left with Cain the product of two fallen beings..

    my guess is the tree of knowledge of good and evil is a spiritual tree, they were commanded not to eat.
    just as Christians today are commanded not to take from satan's table.. he can offer you a number of counterfit spiritual gifts even today.

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  20. Wow! From anonymous above I have never heard a more twisted interpretation of Genesis. Adam and Eve were created perfect, body, soul and spirit. They knew nothing of evil. The tree in the Garden of Eden was a test of volition. Without the ability to chose we have no freedom. The wisdom that is gained by disobeying God is spiritual death, separation from God. Gen 2:17 is referring to spiritual death. Understanding that God gives us volition is central to understanding Genesis.

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  21. I agree Eldon. If Eve had sex with the devil by eating the fruit, then so did Adam. Adam knew Eve ... it does not say the devil knew Eve.

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    1. http://www.worldeventsandthebible.com/2013/10/the-garden-of-eden-origins-of-satans.html

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  23. I was raised strict Southern Baptist and have only recently, when really digging into the Bible, see that the doctrine of Eternal Security is a fallacy. But try telling that to my brothers and sisters in the church. They scream with anger and tell me to stop listening to the devil and begin reading my Bible. It's sad and frustrating!

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    1. And we haven't seen anything yet! We need to strengthen our faith, because you are right ... we will receive more and more condemnation from our brethren. But I believe that the Holy Spirit will give us the words to speak and our fellow Christians ignore them at their own peril. Bless you and do not get frustrated! Jesus is with us!

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    2. I too was Southern Baptist but could no longer sit under ungodly council and the pagon traditions of men so I headed for the wilderness (Bible, me and the HS) where my personal relationship with Yahweh grew leaps and bounds. Pre-trib rapture (man-made dogma, doctrine of demons), free masons as deacons teaching Sunday school and in the pulpits, OSAS easy believism- license to sin mantra, modern bibles like the ESV & NIV that have changed His Word like the removal of "through His blood" in Col 1:14 which originally read "In whom we have redemption, through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins." KJV They removed the most "POWERFUL" words but silence comes from the pulpits in "defending" His Word.

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  24. It might be helpful to see the Tree as a wormhole. It might be helpful to see the fallen as your children, who fell into human history; some by choice, some by the War. It might be helpful to see the Titans as merely those who are literally their own fathers, because time curves. Not all evil. Most try to stay out of human history, enough damage has been done. Christ healed Time, but the War is here, now, in this place.

    First are last, the last are first. Causality loops. It will be hard to see what humans call the past, and what is called Heaven, all collapsing into one place. Like the days of Noah. That is when the dead come back. Also when what is yet to be gets involved. There is no difference.

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  25. Serpent seed is not a salvation issue but it like Gen 6 fills in much of the missing pieces. Buy it or don't buy but don't make it an attack the brethren point of view. We must all formulate a biblical world view on our own.Chuck Missler is a little different from Steve Quayle and Francis Chan and so forth , but we can glean much from these differing P.O.Vs by letting the Holy Spirit lead our way .Good job Belle for starting the conversation.

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    1. Exactly! There is room for differing opinions and heart-felt discussions among the Body of Christ. It is a shame when some feel it is appropriate to attack another over a contrasting interpretation. I agree with you --- if it is not a Salvation issue, then let's learn from each other, and do it all in love.

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  26. I agree that the whole "trans humanism" idea is being pushed into the media even more than ever. The film Transcendence and the new film Lucy, both have this idea of humans becoming like God. It's disgusting! And I have also been doing the same research, I can see that more and more Christians are seeking the truth and not watered down information that is being taught (or not taught at all) in the church. The more we know of what to look for near the end times, the more urgent it is to go out and spread the word. There isn't much time left. I like your blog post, it was very well written and with an honest discernment. God Bless!

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  27. Manoel Ruas
    Hello I read your thesis and found some relevant points also understand that much ah be revealed also read the comments I'm just suspicious as someone with so much understanding do not have the courage to identify and is titled as anonymous, fear or have something behind it I do not understand ? but thank you anyway is good.

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  28. God Bless you sister Belle. I was introduced to your site by a link posted from Stevequayle.com site .Truly guided this morning (2 Aug @ 5 am Philippines time) during morning praise to God. I asked Him to continue my education and not only read this "Outstanding" post but now others by you dear sister in Christ. I have 8 grown children back in the states who will have your link ASAP. They too hunger to walk the path with Jesus and seek God's will for us all. May the Holy Spirit continue to nourish your soul and give you strength to find us all in this world seeking His Grace.

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    1. God Bless You! I am truly humbled by your comments and do not see myself as any greater "seeker" than all the people who have found their way to this post. I believe that the Holy Spirit is reaching all of us and we are receiving greater understandings and revelations as God guides us to His truth. I praise my God for giving me this forum in which we can all glorify Him with our hunger for greater intimacy with Him. He is working wonders among us today!

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  29. Hi , iam new at posting. but consider this question. Why was Eves curse in the form of pain in child bearing?God is just in His judgements and we sow to the wind and reap the whril wind.Eve was defiled in mind ,spirit and body she seen ,desired and ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge.True Knowledge at this point began to desintagrate. But we are entering a time when the sons of God will be revealed. Both the good and bad ones and knowledge on both sides will increase .It is time to seek the mind of God and His understanding. Remember there is a latter rain that is comming that will prepare us to be the warriors of God in the battle with Satan so we can return to a new paridise on earth.May God circumsice our minds as he has our heart and in old Testament times our bodies. ITHINK YOUR ARTICLE WAS GREAT !!! I have trouble spelling sorry.

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    1. You expressed your view very well! I wish more people could see as clearly as you do... thank you for taking the time to comment (and don't worry about your spelling -- my eyes saw only your heart!)

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  30. Good article! A woman that is not drunken/asleep in the night. Rare and refreshing. This is surely a small portion of the lies, propaganda, and deception being paraded before the masses in this hour. I have told the saints at our small church not to be surprised if "E.T." shows up in the future to tell us what we need to do. We can all agree to disagree in biblical matters. Avoid strife and the contentious. Shake your raiment and wipe the dust off your feet and keep doing what you do.

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  31. Belle....I truly appreciate you taking the time to write this post! The Lord opened my husband's and my eyes to all of this about 5-6 years ago. I had always questioned why the Lord had the Israelites destroy so many people groups in the Old Testament, it seemed so against God's character and commandments. Yet, because I love Him so much, I just figured it was a mystery that I wouldn't understand. When I learned about the Genesis 6 verses and what it really meant, then all of the sudden it ALL made sense! Now I see that God had them destroy those people groups because they were half man/half fallen angel. That knowledge keeps the Lord's character and Word all in line, no questions asked! This, I believe is the main puzzle piece that needs to become public knowledge to bring about the revival we all are praying for! So kudos to you for paving the way. Now it's up to the rest of us to be torch bearers and share the Truth! God's Word has had this hidden until now. With the Book of Enoch and the Dead Sea Scroll discoveries, it's all there to back it up! Also LA Marzulli is on to some amazing discoveries!! Bless you!

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  32. Thanks Belle for your post. I found your link also on stevequayle.com and have enjoyed it. I find myself thinking the same things and wonder how people can just go through life and not see all that is happening around us and not know that we are in the throws of prophecy happening and unfolding right before our eyes. I am UPC and while I don't think that they have it all right I have learned that we have a need for our relationship to keep growing with our savior. I believe the lord has opened my eyes to a lot that the normal church goers just don't see. I pray the Lord keeps opening eyes and we come to a further and deeper understanding of what God has for us to see....God bless
    Mike

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  33. yes, the author makes real points and how many deceited Christians are out there; I go to a website where people thank for creation and all in it, for tv, sports and so on...how much deception there is and how much cover up or distortion of biblical truth and sound doctrine; there are huge parts of creation and human culture completely contaminated by satan's schemes and dna...how awful will be for pregnant and nursing women in those days...why Jesus says this ? ( we know pregnant and nursing women are more vulnerable than the rest), but does He means something even more awful ?

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  34. I realize how uncomfortable we all are about talking about sex in Biblical context but it is reality none the less.
    Perhaps we can clear up the satan/Eve/apple/tree with a look at sex as we understand it today. Quite simply
    we ALL know the difference between loving sex and lustful sex don't we? Satan showed the differnce to Eve
    and Eve then showed Adam thus perverting God's Holy gift......and it has been a curse to us to this day. TH

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  35. Well this is anonymus 11:33. I am happy to correspond with Belle who is obviously understands the big picture. Folks the truth may set you free but it will also bring condemnation and hate from the mainstream low information Christians. Wish I had a group like hers. For those who really want to expand their knowledge and see some things that the Catholic church did not destroy I would suggest reading "The Lost books of the bible" which includes the Books of Hermas.

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  36. Anonymous 11:33: Lets look at the false reading of the timeline of Revelations. Folks, we are not facing the end of the world. Most Christians believe (Matthew 24:34) that in the generation of founding modern Israel the end will come falsely believing the jews are true lost tribes of Israel, thus any time now the world will end and Christ will come.

    This is the set up for the false messiah. True the economy will tank and a world war will commence but that is the set up. So after the surviving Christians witness the world being torn apart they will look to God for salvation and......will not find Him. Why? Because the false modern church of today has been weighed and measured by God and found wanting so God will send His judgment in the following way.

    Thessalonians 2: 10 and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

    What is the this strong delusion. A false messiah. He will come from space. Yep, sounds silly doesn't it but there is a reason the Catholic Church has observatories around the world and is currently pushing a space alien agenda. So here will come the anti-Christ with all the answers and the product of the modern Christian church will fall for it, hook line, and stinker. But some of us will know be reading this correctly.

    Who? Why the elect of course.
    Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, "if it were possible" they shall deceive the very elect.

    In Acts 20 Paul warned us that the church will become corrupted. 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

    So did Pauls warning come true?

    Witness in Jude 1: 3 ¶ Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was "once" delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

    So Jude tell us Paul's prediction came true. So what modern day happy face Christians received from their bible cherry picking Pastors and Priests was a handed down and watered down corrupt version of the word.

    Those of the hidden church know this.

    So the church has been in a state of corruption for 2000 years but you would never know it attending a modern one today watching them jump up and down singing emotional songs that make them feel better.



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    1. You are correct the false one will come from "space" at least it will appear that way.....These so called aliens are not from a distant planet or galaxy.....They are from right here and always have been....They are interdemensional beings of a demonic nature and are part of Satan's crew.....The newly Jesuit controlled Catholic church is going to play a huge role in ushering in the false one......They have openly admitted it and are quite proud of it.....Go to You Tube and check out people such as Tom Horn, Chris Putman, L.A. Marzulli, Rob Skiba, Steve Quale just to name a few.....There are many others in the know.....BTW, the Catholic church actually furnished Tom Horn and Chris Putman with Vatican documents that lay out their whole plan for ushering in these so called benevolent aliens that will be the savior of mankind.....Don't forget that "even the very elect shall be decieved"......Keep up the good research.....Your article is spot on!

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  37. Attention: please read the book of Jasher and the book of Jubilees, also found at the Dead Sea.
    They witness of angeles mating with women, and corrupted breeding.
    These scriptures are short, so its an easy task to take your time to read, and see what is confirmed in this article.
    God Bless!

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  38. The person whose eyes, ears, heart and mind are led by the Holy Spirit is spiritual, not carnal. A spiritual battle will never be won with carnal weapons of war. We have no earthly concept how bad what is coming will be as the gates of hell are opened and satan unleashes his rage against mankind. I'd rather look to the Shepherd and Guardian of my soul than dwell on alien beings I can do nothing about. I'd rather know Jesus Christ and His protection under the shelter of His wings than try to decipher who is a "transhuman", robot and any other being created by satan and his demonic forces already in this world and at the head of all religious and governmental entities.

    I'd rather concentrate on God;s seal for His people than the mark of satan as it all has to do with whom we choose to worship and be obedient to. Adam and Eve disobeyed God and fell in the most beautiful, peaceful garden ever created. Man, too, by his arrogant pridefulness will fall unless he/she humbles himself/herself.

    God hates arrogance and pride. He wants as heart that mind and soul open, abiding and obedient to Him and His truth not the personal interpretations of man.

    Remembering that the Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic languages at the time have much different meanings than the imaginative, secularized and highly sexualized concepts in America today.

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  39. "18 And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals"
    Book of Jasher, chapter 4 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/4.htm

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  40. The serpent seedline: http://www.serpentseedline.com/

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  41. Just the sheer number of excellent replies above reveals the concern Christians have concerning the world we find ourselves in this season. I wish I could say that such concerns were addressed in the local churches throughout the world, but I am sorry to admit that the Brick and Mortar Church has dropped the ball and allowed Hollywood to take charge of the Supernatural. Especially our children are receiving news of evil entities and that these evil forces are "OK" and that "intercourse" both physical and mental are "OK". Many of the "starlets" in entertainment relate that they have had sex with demons and angels. Revelation 9:21 seems to spell it all out: "And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality
    or their thefts" Revelation 9:21 NKJV. Sorceries here is "Pharmakeia meaning both witchcraft, Satanism and drug use. Of course this has been going on for along time but now it has become "legalized", sanitized and seen as normal. We who are intolerant will be shortly put out of the way or hopefully "gathered" unto Him for it's all down hill from here on in. This is why it is so important you either accept Christ Jesus and The Gospel or renew and right your relationship in Christ. The Pope just said that it is not necessary to share the Gospel, that the Catholics need just show example. Well, the example of the Catholic Church with it 20 percent pedophiles does not appear a good example one should think.

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  42. Here's the thing. Studying all the stuff can lead to paralysis of analysis. At least for me, as I have sought to follow most of what has been mentioned in Belles wonderful article.
    I come back to this: In Philippians Paul speaks about knowing Christ and the power of His resurrection. He also says ONE THING I DO, Phil. 3:13-14 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

    14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

    I find myself growing weary of constantly following the latest "amazing" thing, and have decided to do the ONE thing. I am not saying you shouldn't, just saying at the end of the day I just want Jesus. Jim

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  43. From 11:33. One person said this. "You are correct the false one will come from "space" at least it will appear that way.....These so called aliens are not from a distant planet or galaxy.....They are from right here and always have been....They are interdemensional beings of a demonic nature and are part of Satan's crew" Of course you are right and I have read books by both Horm and Quayle. But the antichrist will come from space because Satan is the prince of the air as Paul said. There is an interdemention in the space above between Heaven and earth and this is where satan is. The UFO's we see are his piloted by demonic beings and are satans crew.

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  44. Look how the words "fruit" symbolizes offspring in the scripture; Wisdom of the Essenes (Qumran) - Tales of the Patriarchs, chapter 06
    18. "That this seed, pregnancy, and planting of fruit comes from you and not a stranger, Watcher, or son of the heaven... "
    http://one-faith-of-god.org/old_testament/apocrypha/qumran/qumran_0060.htm

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    1. Thank you for this link, Peter. Satan has done a good job of hiding this truth from the Church and leading Christians away from right knowledge.

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    2. And notice how Seed in this verse, is decribed as Pregnacy.
      "That this seed, pregnancy," Wisdom of the Essenes (Qumran) - Tales of the Patriarchs, chapter 06

      Where do we read about seed in the story Adam and Eve?

      "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." (‭Genesis‬ ‭3‬:‭15‬ KJV)

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    3. Peter....I am still new to a lot of this and while I admit that I understand that fruit and seed refer to conception and birth and pregnancy, ( hence the reason the Lord said to "be fruitful and multiply"), I IMHO don't see where the devil (satan) had sex with Eve. In the Bible where God said "I will put enmity between thy seed and her seed ", he made the separation right there. He even went as far as to say enmity between the woman and satan. I do believe as LA Marzulli says that there is a seed war going on from days of old to the present. Truthfully I never even knew about this seed war and giants and alien deception stuff until recently. I wonder sometimes if that was not what was told to Daniel that God said not to talk about but was sealed up until later when it will be revealed ( not saying for sure that that is it,but I always wondered what God told him to seal up and prophecy about....of course I always wondered what the thunders uttered in heaven that John was gonna write about to, that the angel of the Lord told him to seal up and not write). And if that was not your point then I apologize but I know that that was what one of the earlier posts was about....Mike

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    4. Michael,

      Pardon me for inserting myself into your conversation with Peter ... Like you, I have a suspicion that this is part of what Daniel was told to seal up until the End Times. I can't figure out why, but who can know the mind of God? I just trust that He has a purpose in the unfolding of this information now. The question of Eve mating with Satan in the Garden of Eden is a controversial subject, to say the least, but I have enough questions to at least consider it. For instance, why did Eve receive a curse of painful child birth for simply eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil? And why would God tell the serpent, "Because you done this, I will ... put enmity between your offspring and hers?" What was the "this" and what did it have to do with offspring and seed? Then there is the Apostle Paul's admonition in 2 Corinthians 11:2-3. Why is the serpents beguiling of Eve mentioned in comparison to being espoused to one husband and being presented as a chaste virgin? While I cannot conclusively commit Scripture to this interpretation, I have enough questions to make it a legitimate concern and the Spirit is leading me to seriously contemplate this possibility. I pray for discernment and God's leading on this matter.

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    5. Hello Belle....God bless you and thank you for taking an interest in my conversation. I read what you said and have a couple of notes for you from my thoughts if you don't mind me addressing your points. First about Genesis concerning the whole sex with satan thing. I don't see that it is possible that this could have happened because if the "fruit" refers to partaking in sexual acts with satan then what about the fruit on the rest of the trees in the garden," Gen. 2:9 'And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.'" God goes on telling us the we may eat of the trees for they are "meat" food for us and the animals of the field and the fowls of the air. Now if the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil that eve partook of was in reference to sex with satan then what of the other trees that were created at the same time, and what about the tree of life. Adam and eve were only forbidden to eat of the tree of knowledge , we know they ate from the tree of life because it was told by God that we must drive them from the garden because, " he has become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat and live forever: Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of eden...." Gen 3: 22-23. So when exactly did "fruit" stop being fruit because God made the implication that All the trees of the garden bore fruit with the seed therein. So to refer to the forbidden fruit as a sexual act would mean that they all were really sexual fruits for the taking and that presents a couple of problems as you can see. Second, why I am not sure why he chose to curse the woman in child birth and increasing the pain thereof, there are a couple of possible reasons:
      1. It could have been because in a relationship between husband and wife she has the unique ability to grow or create life in her body once conception has happened. So maybe God cursed her with the physical pain to reflect the spiritual pain for His creation going down the wrong road.
      2. May be because of the seed war that was coming between her seed and satans seed. Those are just opinions though because like I said I am not really sure why God chose that particular curse.
      Finally in 2 Cor. 11: 2-3 Paul used the fall of Eve to relate to people being led astray in the spirit. He espoused us to Christ by preaching the gospel in Corinth and wanted to present us as chaste vigins spiritually to Christ. We know that he couldn't have been referring to physical virgins because I am sure that that notion went out the window a long time ago in Corinth for a lot of the followers of Christ given the history of Corinth.
      I hope this helps you Belle to understand where I am coming from. We must practise exogesis and not isogesis where we put our own thoughts into the Bible and the interpretation thereof.
      God bless all.....:)

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    6. If you will refer to Strong's Concordance 6529, you will see that "fruit" has multiple meanings: 1) the mature edible product of a plant, and 2) it also can mean "offspring" or "fruit of a womb". In both instances, this word "fruit" comes from a root word that means "to be fruitful, bear fruit, grow." Therefore God could instruct the writers of the Bible to use the word "fruit" in both instances, although they have very different meanings in each case. I simply rely on the Holy Spirit to give me discernment as to which meaning is implied.

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    7. I understand what you are saying Belle but the one thing we must remember is that we need to keep the context of what is being said in the verse and how it relates to the rest of the verse....if God is referring to the fruit of the trees that He just planted in eden in the verse just prior then we must figure that fruit is just that fruit....because we know the actual tree did exist because He just spoke of it with all the rest of the trees. This is sobwe don't get lost in thinking without going to the word for guidance. For example....when Jesus speaks in the new testament about bearing much fruit or cutting down the plant that doesn't bear any fruit, obviously he wasn't talking about sex there because he wasn't referring to conception...neither did God say anything about sex or conception in the garden when referring to the trees that he just created. He did however refer to conception when he told them to " be fruitful and multiply". Hope this helps a little....God bless you Belle and keep writing these blogs....its great to meet like minded people in this late hour.
      Mike

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    8. We will just have to agree to disagree ....

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    9. Understood Belle......still I have enjoyed your blog and hope you keep writing them
      God bless.....:)

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  45. Luke 12:2 ""But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known."

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  46. Hello, you seem to have totally ignored that the Earth is part of the Universe and willl last quite a few more billions of years, which really will be out of our human capacity to imagine. The universe itself is many thousand of light years wide. we cannt imagine to understand.
    You can do things for the world as that which was done by men... You or anyone else is powerless as far as the earth is concerned.

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  47. As in the days of Noah.....fallen angels had sex with women corrupting the DNA, producing alien babies. In the Malay/Indonesian culture, men claim to marry and have children with Bunian (Jinns). Their wives are invisible to others though their children appear like other humans.

    You can wake up those who are asleep. But it becomes impossible to awaken a culture that is strongly spellbound by Satan. Those with corrupted genes will never gain salvation. They already have the mark of the Beast.

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