tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-367019700923216960.post5823960519729426308..comments2024-01-17T13:19:24.071-06:00Comments on Salvation And Survival: Daughters of the American Revolution: Fairly Criticized or Falsely Accused?Pam Kohlerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00678673505358164380noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-367019700923216960.post-12982603968953299482022-04-13T17:14:09.532-05:002022-04-13T17:14:09.532-05:00The Bible tells us that in the Last Days, man'...The Bible tells us that in the Last Days, man's heart will grow cold toward God/Jesus and we will be lover's of self. We should not be surprised as Christians become "bullied". And bullying will turn into outright persecution as we get closer to Christ's return. Sad but true! We must remain committed to our faith and to being representatives of God's Kingdom on earth. But it's going to get rough! Pam Kohlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678673505358164380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-367019700923216960.post-77433672222571799212022-04-12T14:46:42.792-05:002022-04-12T14:46:42.792-05:00We started meeting in person a few months ago and ...We started meeting in person a few months ago and it was disturbing to hear our Chaplain say an "atheist" prayer. Our Regent is a strong Christian woman and there is a new group that have been bullying her. These woman happen to not be Christian. I was also upset the the NSDAR no longers supports the Tamassee DAR school for children after 100 years-could it be because it is Christian? I recently heard Os Guiness speak at a program called LifeWork - bring Christ into the workplace.His book The Magna Carta of Humanity: Sinai’s Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom reflects the message of a society without God / Jesus.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09692980126936446098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-367019700923216960.post-30288085234258734082013-01-20T21:23:38.005-06:002013-01-20T21:23:38.005-06:00The NSDAR's denials are astounding and are in ...The NSDAR's denials are astounding and are in truth not denials but deflections. Despite all efforts at obfuscation, covertly striking out the name of Jesus & relegating Christianity to an optional status is a major, deeply disturbing change, not to mention historically divisive. The accusations are true by reference to the irrefutable evidence of the documents themselves. The 2008 Ritual edition and all other previous editions include dozens of references to Jesus Christ in prayers & benedictions. The current 2011 Ritual mentions Christ only in the context of optional "religious observance" prayers for Christmas & Easter, which are only identified as "a Christian celebration" - no other mention of Jesus or Christ at all. IMPORTANT INFORMATION: Using your DAR member # go to www.dar.org then go to National Publications and then click Ritual and Missal & download & view ALL the Ritual and Missals from 1903 to 2011. Herein lies the irrefutable evidence of the documents themselves <br /><br />This is also a helpful link<br />http://teapartyorg.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=4301673%3ABlogPost%3A1221504<br /><br />Thank you, Debra French Bloom, Nashville, TNIf you ask mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12503616621798916564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-367019700923216960.post-34336176095084049782013-01-18T21:16:17.003-06:002013-01-18T21:16:17.003-06:00I applaud you proud and patriotic ladies who are w...I applaud you proud and patriotic ladies who are willing to go on record with the truth. Please keep fighting for this worthy cause! Not only are you representing the DAR Founders, the Founding Fathers, but our Lord, Jesus Christ. It is obvious to anyone who knows progressivism when they set it, that the DAR leaders have compromised their organization. To those of you who are fighting to return it to its founding principles, we recognize your efforts and are cheering you on!Pam Kohlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678673505358164380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-367019700923216960.post-87474810830225212572013-01-18T16:47:47.803-06:002013-01-18T16:47:47.803-06:00I too am a DAR member and have presented the same ...I too am a DAR member and have presented the same argument to other members of my chapter. While I've had some support I've also encountered much hostility even with the irrefutable evidence of the 2011 revised "Ritual and Missal". Also, I can't help but believe our 1st Amendment Rights have been infringed upon by the NSDAR Administration's covert actions. Personally, I think President General Merry Ann T Wright should be banned not Jesus Christ. In her statements she deflects from the accusations: She says 1. We want to be inclusive 2. We mention God 3. We include prayers that are Christian in origin. She never denies the accusation, in fact deflection #1 is a tacit admission that the accusation is true, as well as an attempt at justification. And last but not least it's a blatant implication that our DAR Founders somehow got it wrong. www.thepetitionsite.com/820/102/062/dar-recall-the-ritual-and-missal-books-printed-in-december-2011/ Thank you, Debra French Bloom, Nashville, TNIf you ask mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12503616621798916564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-367019700923216960.post-25964959721971782022013-01-08T18:45:23.408-06:002013-01-08T18:45:23.408-06:00I just wish I could post the actual scanned pages ...I just wish I could post the actual scanned pages as proof. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-367019700923216960.post-7998879733517199482013-01-08T14:49:30.503-06:002013-01-08T14:49:30.503-06:00Unfortunately, the DAR has now joined the ranks of...Unfortunately, the DAR has now joined the ranks of sell-outs to the Progressive cause. I am sure that the founders of this once patriotic and faith-based organization would be saddened and disgusted. I know I am.<br />Pam Kohlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678673505358164380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-367019700923216960.post-24158253838625487502013-01-08T14:47:30.056-06:002013-01-08T14:47:30.056-06:00THANK YOU for bringing your experience to this web...THANK YOU for bringing your experience to this website! You have validated what I strongly believed was a deliberate and carefully crafted method of eliminating Jesus from the DAR. It always starts small, doesn't it? Just changing the name shouldn't offend anyone, right? But the obvious omission of Jesus in favor of political correctness is not to be tolerated from an organization that purports to embrace our historical legacy and liberties. Thank you for giving us the truth!Pam Kohlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678673505358164380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-367019700923216960.post-25084321593781302112013-01-08T12:41:12.325-06:002013-01-08T12:41:12.325-06:00Interestingly, those who are screaming and protest...Interestingly, those who are screaming and protesting for tolerance are the least tolerant of others. As I've stated on other pages, this is nothing more than a lesson taken from the Liberal Handbook on how to dismember America bit by bit, piece by piece. <br /><br />The Government says keep Christ, Religious quotes and Crosses out of Government funded facilities, yet the Government is demanding that churches and other Christian based institutions acknowledge same sex marriage (which goes against the Bible) under the guise of creating "equality" for all. Nothing could be further from the truth. Mandates and forcing laws into the American ideology has been on the agenda for some time...at least since the 1960's. <br /><br />Unfortunately, the DAR is apparently infiltrated with nothing more than Liberal female cronies who have been indoctrinated INside the D.C. Beltway and wish to now spread their wealth of knowledge to the masses! The group now disgusts me!!!<br /><br />Dorothy Blum Cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03170983936533151332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-367019700923216960.post-74687840681735140882013-01-08T12:30:52.080-06:002013-01-08T12:30:52.080-06:00The NSDAR continues to deny the removal of the nam...The NSDAR continues to deny the removal of the name of Jesus and words that specifically reference Christianity. The DAR Daughters protesting the new Ritual and Missal have never denied that it contains many prayers with various references to God, which are used as generic names for any god or God. The facts are:<br />• It is the deliberate omission of the actual name "Jesus" and "Jesus Christ" that we Christian Daughters find very offensive, as "Jesus" is the name God directed Mary to name His Son (Mathew 1:21) and the Bible directs us to pray in His name . <br />• The name "Jesus" appears only once, and that is in a parenthetical statement about Easter. The name "Jesus Christ" is nowhere to be found! <br />• The name "Christ" appears only three times, twice in the body of two of the five prayers for Easter and in a parenthetical statement "the Christ child" for Christmas. <br />• Also offensive is the deletion or the altering of every prayer or poem having words that reference a Christian symbol or Christianity in some way. What is vital and dear to Christians has been purged from the Ritual and Missal in the name of so-called "inclusion." <br /><br />Every meeting of DAR begins with the DAR ritual led by the chaplain. The official guide book provided by the DAR for chaplains is the Ritual and Missal. In the front of both the old and new Ritual and Missals, there is a statement reminding Daughters to be considerate of members of all faith beliefs. <br />• We know of no other administration that has given a specific example about how they pray. (Sept. 2011, President General's Blog) <br />• Although the President General's later blogs confirmed that there is no mandate directing Daughters how to pray, concern remains for many members that political correctness has found its way into the NSDAR. Political correctness is political and divisive, as this issue now well illustrates. Our Bylaws forbid anything political. We heartily embrace Daughters of all faiths, beliefs, and life-styles. What we do not accept are the radical changes that exclude our Judeo-Christian beliefs, the very root and heart of American liberty, because others are offended by them. <br /><br />It is also a fact that in the new Ritual and Missal oaths to the Constitution, a promise to respect the Flag, and the singing of the National Anthem were omitted. <br />• After we brought this matter to the attention of the Administration, the President General issued statements that these omissions would be corrected with the next printing. When will that be? <br />• It is another fact that two patriotic hymns have been deleted from a ritual. There has been no indication that these omissions will be corrected with the next printing.<br /><br />Previous Ritual and Missals were compiled by appointed Chaplain Generals, were revised for each new administration, and had contributions by state chaplains. The new book dispenses with this tradition. <br />• The newly revised book can be used for many future generations. If this method now replaces the former tradition, a permanent version should still reflect the legacy of our DAR founders. They entrusted their legacy to administrations that would follow them. <br />• While placing some older versions on the DAR website is a step in the right direction, many members may not know about them or be able to view them. <br /><br />The new Ritual and Missal must be recalled and reprinted to correct all omissions if the peace of our Society is to be restored. Otherwise, Christian Daughters have no choice but to resign their membership.<br /><br />Unfortunately, because this Administration denied us our freedom of speech to discuss these changes to the Ritual and Missal among the membership at large, Daughters have been forced to take the matter public, and we are thankful to FOX and FRIENDS for breaking the story. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-367019700923216960.post-84475682864289537532013-01-05T19:48:39.959-06:002013-01-05T19:48:39.959-06:00Isn't it amazing how the argument is ALWAYS pr...Isn't it amazing how the argument is ALWAYS presented as "We just want to be respectful of other religions."? Yet, they show such disrespect for Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God .... refusing to even mention His name?!?! It makes me so sad.Pam Kohlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678673505358164380noreply@blogger.com