A Modern Woman's Perspective On The Kingdom of God on Earth


October 13, 2014

End Times Theology Wars & How Satan Will Use Our Religion Against Us

     We are all aware of the persecution of Christians in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Africa, and other parts of the world.  And we are seeing the effects of discrimination and oppression against Christian principles within our society and culture.  But there is one source of hostility against Christians that is the most shameful and despicable of all ... that of other Christians.
     In his most insightful book, Blood on the Altar, Tom Horn and other discerning writers lay out a convincing argument that there will be, in the End Times, a royal battle between the True Church and the False Church.  Just as Jesus was bold in showing the Pharisees that strict religious adherence to the Law did not produce righteousness before YVHV, so was the Apostle Paul fearless as he debated with Hellenized Jews over the declarations of the true and living God.  In fact, all the Apostles ran into opposition when teaching and preaching the newfound Gospel Message.  Therefore, we, too, should be bold and unafraid to present true Apostolic teachings.
      And here is where the crux of the issue lies.  Personally, my life has not always been a productive one for God's Kingdom, nor have I approached His Word with a scholarly and intense desire to know Him in every way He has revealed Himself.  I confess that this grieves me.  But in recent years, I have been moved towards greater understandings and deeper revelations of what His Word has to tell us.  That has resulted in a different path, and a new, and sometimes different comprehension of the Bible -- one that does not always set well with Christians who are satisfied with their current understanding; or Believers who are comfortable with their level of knowledge and  have no desire to seek greater illumination.  Please, this is not an indictment against them; I am simply stating that God is working differently in me.
     But when I want to take the bold step of sharing bigger concepts, and a bigger God, with the American Church, I have been met with much resistance and hostility.  I think we can all agree that there is much strife within the Church's denominations over "the right dividing of God's Truth." The Baptists think they are accurately representing what the Apostles taught and preached.  But so do the Presbyterians ... and the Lutherans ... and the Catholics.  So how did we get to so many different doctrines and creeds and religious ideologies?  They can't differ so much, and all be right!
     So it is, that as I have endeavored to express the wondrous and awe-inspiring depth of the Bible, that I have encountered more opposition than I would have expected.  In my eagerness to share how the Septuagint and the Greek translation of the New Testament, along with studies of the Hebrew Old Testament and the writings of the Early Church Fathers have expanded my understanding of Genesis, Chapter 6, I have been astounded at the vitriolic comments from fellow Christians.  When I have tried to relate my skepticism of tattoos to ancient Biblical warnings, the acrimony from my Brothers and Sisters in Christ was, let's just say, less than loving.  And every time that I have attempted to equate Israel's right to the Land, according to the Bible, some of the harshest critics have been self-proclaimed Believers of the Word.
      I have been called a heretic, a fool, grossly manipulative, a false teacher, and even a tart (Not sure why that's appropriate) ... And all by fellow Christians.  And for what purpose?  Was it to gently rebuke me because they disagreed?  Was it done out of a humble and sincere heart to correct my stumbling thoughts?  Or was it to punish, embarrass and disparage me?  Could they support their own arguments, or was it simply that my new discoveries upset conventional theology?
     SIDE NOTE: We need to understand the difference between "Religion" and "Theology".  It is almost impossible to agree upon a definition of Religion, but for the sake of this essay, my understanding is that Religion is a system of faith, based upon doctrines and a set of beliefs held by the Church.  The word "Theology" comes from two Greek words -- "Theos" meaning God, and "Logia" meaning "a subject of study".  Therefore, as a person who is digging deep into God's Word to learn what He has to say about Himself, I am a "studier of God".  That is to say, I am reading, investigating and reflecting upon His Word in a personal effort to gain more knowledge of Him.
     Yet, when I attempt to share and encourage dialogue with my fellow Christians, I encounter harsh condemnation for daring to suggest something different from accepted doctrine.  Isn't that what Jesus, and later, the Apostles, experienced when they endeavored to introduce a greater understanding of God?  Shouldn't it be important to us to be diligent in how we interpret His Word?  As Christians, isn't it incumbent upon us to protect and fortify the Bible from the culture?  Have we forgotten that James 4:4 warns us that "friendship with the world means enmity with God?", or do we not rightfully discern the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares?
    Have we stopped to ask ourselves, "Am I understanding God's Word as He intended me to, or am I relying on others (my Pastor, my Denomination, Christian "personalities") to interpret it for me?"  As Christians, shouldn't we want to know as much about God as we can, so that we can glorify Him through our love and obedience?  So, why is there so much animosity and bitterness when I want to illuminate His Word?
     The "haters" can hypothesize that I am interpreting Scripture wrongly or falsely; yet what I find is that they don't show me where Scripture disputes my findings; it is more likely that my opinion is in opposition to their traditional doctrine.  In this day and age, our culture is trying to denigrate our Faith for its "intolerance" and "bigotry" -- and much of that criticism is coming from within the Church, itself!  Try, as my husband and I did, to defend Scripture, as it is written, to proponents of a sect of Christianity who call themselves the Emerging Church.  We were told we were part of "the old paradigm", and Christianity was changing!  How can the so-called Church be so misguided?  Scripture clearly says, Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever!
     But I must be completely honest; there have been many comments on my afore-mentioned theological theories that were kind and supportive; they encouraged me to continue in my dauntless pursuit of knowledge about this Awesome God we serve.  And that gives me hope that the Body of Christ is willing to hear the Truth as God teaches it through the Bible.  It heartens me that there are those who understand my unwillingness to compromise His Truth with the spirit of this world or our culture.
      We must stand on the Authority of the Bible -- and every word of the Bible; all of it -- not on man's or the Church's accommodating doctrine.  I realize that there is much of God's Wisdom and Counsel that we will never know or understand.  However, I believe He is revealing to this generation what we need to know for these times; but we must earnestly seek Him and reverently study His Word.  And His Word foretells false teachers and false prophets; Satan has done a great job establishing his counterfeit church.  And Christ also forecasts a prosperous and comfortable Church that has everything it needs, yet is apathetic, superficial, and lukewarm.  THAT Church does not want to hear any new revelations that upset their conventional and traditional theology.  THAT Church will become increasingly like the culture it attempts to placate and imitate, and more hostile to brethren who promote God's Truth.  What is now vitriolic hostility may soon become "justified" retribution.  And that, my fellow Christians, is not what Christ intended for His Church!

Mark 7:6-9     Jesus replied, 'You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you, for he wrote, 'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship is a farce, for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.' For you ignore God's law and substitute your own tradition.' Then He said, 'You skillfully sidestep God's law in order to hold on to your own tradition.'
     

45 comments:

  1. I have been researching the religous illiteracy for awhile. Our memory of past theology wars is short to the point of being akin to dementia. One such war was over Bible translations and which one to use. Circa 1830 I believe in Philadelphia a riot ensued and about 14 people were killed. But it gets worse with the theology and Bible interpretation on slavery. We got the Civil War and over 600,000 dead. Is it coming again? YES because people let their pride create hatred towards others

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  2. Amazing...sending this one out! You are not alone in the Good Fight! I feel like you wrote what The Lord is revealing to His Warriors, who are ready with their veils lifted seeing above the waves and preparing for the soon coming day of Our Lord! God Bless You, In Jesus Name Amen.

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  3. It's all apart of the Great Deception, your seeing it unfold right now!! Only the (elect), and the remnant will understand! Everything is melding into oneness as it is written. I get a lot of flack because I left the traditional teaching of rapture, but for most church goers it's so engrained in their minds, that I get called every name under the sun. That's fine though, we were told by the KING, "they hated me, they will hate you". So when we are that hated and maligned, we know we are doing it right!! The danger of fly-away is not realizing there are 2 messiah's, and most won't be able to discern which is which.

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  4. Thank you. This blessed and encouraged me. Like yourself, after I started to grow in The Lord's Grace, the Holy Spirit started to reveal to me that there was much more than what the mainstream churches and public ministries were preaching and teaching. Limited space and time will not permit me to reveal all that He has shown me from that point until now, but I will say that it has been incredible and He receives all the glory and praise. I was called to be a pastor and I started to preach 5 years ago. What I started to find out almost immediately is that sermons and discussions on what The Bible TRULY has to say about government, apostate preachers, secret societies, and the unholy and often times subtle influence of popular culture in the church was met with ignorance and, in some cases, with outright hostility. I certainly do not know everything and am still learning daily, but I do know that the church in America and many of the individual tombs, i.e. buildings, that we refer to as churches have become as Sardis or Laodicea (Revelation 3). Hosea 4:6 is not studies for all it's worth.

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  5. Excellent, I totally agree. This article was well thought out, and well worded. it is a message that believers need to adhere to in the latter times. Paul says that men will be lovers of their own- selves which is a strong part of the problem with the church today. The modern church has consumed itself with entertainment and self promotion. Many in the church are deceived today because thy want to be deceived. But God will not be mocked. So you stand strong in these dark days and even darker days ahead. And know without a shadow of a doubt, "that are more with you than there against you. Until He Comes.

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  6. I agree that there is issue with discernment and interpretation. however, the whole rapture, no rapture theory boils down to who you believe is the restrainer. I have yet to see a convincing scriptural argument that the restrainer is michael, but then again I don't hold out that a pretrib rapture is going to save the bride from all tribulation either. there is just as much hate and intolerance being dished out toward the brethren from both sides and that's worrying me lately. personally I don't think doctrinal differences should pit brother against brother, but it does. how do we know the division about the rapture isn't what's going to fuel the war between believers? Do your own study and interpretation always. OUR MAIN GOAL SHOULD BE APOLOGETICS FOR THE GOSPEL, not division about interpretation off message.

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  7. May I suggest you listen to the messages on www.dougriggs.org a teacher of Pastors.

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  8. It is simply amazing how the more we study, the more it comes back to "read your Bible & pray". How many people have I met both in and out of church who absolutely refuse to get a bigger understanding of our God? They rely on their pastor, some radio station, google, their friends, someone who once told them something and what they remember their grandmother saying... They defend their paradigm and call anyone who reads the Bible outside the context of a line of scripture, or between the commas, legalistic.

    All it takes is a trip to the 'Christian' book store. Look at the Bible studies - how many only present a viewpoint meant to not upset various denominations? When will we stop worshipping the attributes of God and simply worship Him in spirit and truth? The scriptures seem undeniable on this.

    The biggest issue I have been facing in my area is a lack of spiritual maturity. It's almost as if no one wants to draw closer to God. They seem to be just fine where they are. They hear a different Jesus than I hear - the Jesus they hear says to them "Go, and sin a little less. I love you. Keep trying to be a good person." It is not a bad statement - it sounds good until you see it in practice: "God loves me no matter what. He made me the way I am. I don't have to change - He likes me just as I am." Usually followed by stern or hurt "Don't judge me bro!" in one form or another.

    I am certain you have heard it all as well... People preaching pastors and churches instead of God and Jesus - and don't dare mention the Holy Spirit.

    On the brighter side, we were made for this time. Chosen and planned for it. We are being continually renewed by His Word and empowered by His Spirit. He has given us our tasks - and when He assigns the task, he brings the appropriate resources, at just the right times. We get to live for Him, we get to burn for Him, we get to be there when He changes lives, heals the sick, binds up the broken hearted and sets the captives free - Everyday!!!! Ours is the testimony of the glory, and honor, and power of the living God! Hooray for this Jesus - All glory to Him, forever!

    May God bless and keep you all.

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  9. We need to remember that not everybody who calls himself a Christian is actually a Christian– Mat. 7:21. There are goats mixed in with the sheep and tares mixed in with the wheat. One of our enemy's favorite tactics is to toss out as many decoys as possible. In this way, he likes to cause confusion.

    Certainly, there are some genuine Christians who are immature in their understanding and some who are sidetracked in false doctrine but I suspect that too many of those who are spreading error and causing trouble in the church are GOATS. Goats have overrun the church! They lead the denominations. They teach in our seminaries and fill our pulpits. They sit next to us in our churches. But the thing about goats is that they are NOT our brothers in Christ. We must not accommodate their errors. We simply stand for the truth and let the goats scream (because that's what they do!). Goats are the ones who demand that you accommodate their heresies in the name of love and unity. Of course, it's their definitions of love and unity. Don't do it. Stick to the scriptures which are the sure words of God. Reject all errors and heresies that contradict the scriptures.

    Jesus said you can tell a tree by its fruit. If someone is a true Christian, the Holy Spirit will lead him into all truth. He may kick and holler for a while but God will ultimately have all whom He is calling. On the other hand, goats hate the truth. They hate sound doctrine. They hate the absolute authority of scripture. Have nothing to do with them.

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  10. I started digging into the bible a few years ago for myself. Had to force myself to actually 'READ' the words. Found my brain going on autopilot because I'd 'HEARD' that before. Amazing what the Holy Spirit can teach you when you let go of the pulpit/denomination and allow the author of the book to tell you what He wrote.

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  11. Man has taken the 66 books of the bible & with man's(6) interpretation = 666

    Thats why we have so many denominations & why none of them can agree.

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  12. It would be interesting to hear your take on those subjects that seem to incite vitriol from other Christians. While I can't say that I disagree with your perspective in this article (I cannot agree or disagree without evaluating your take on such subjects as you refer to) - indeed, I think there are many in the church that *are* misled - these types of takes do concern me. The primary reason for the concern is whether the subject matter is edifying or condemning - is it strengthening or dividing the body of Christ. So many articles like this seem to be condemning and dividing, and that makes me really question the source of the message. Unfortunately, the use of the term "haters" makes me seriously question the heart of this article. Jesus calls us to love not only each other, but others who are not His children as well, regardless of their apparent lack of love for us. We must remember Jesus' commission does not include convincing people of our opinion - that is up to God - but that we should tell others. And we should not take it personally if others reject what we have to say. Anytime someone who claims to be a child of the Living God feels they must *convince* others of their point of view, it makes me suspicious.

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    1. I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear ... I used the word haters, and in quotations, to reflect those un-Christian-like Christians who were unable to disagree with me in love. It does NOT reflect my perception of them. And I do not take it personally, otherwise I would discontinue this blog. If you are a long-time reader of this blog, you know that I never try to convince anyone of my opinion; I merely share my understanding and ask for respectful dialogue. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and it is my desire that the Holy Spirit works in each of us to properly discern.

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    2. I forgot to invite you to visit my past posts on the subjects mentioned, if you are sincerely interested in knowing what I presented on them.

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    3. The word "hate" or "hater" has been so misused, it almost always raises a red flag to me. I have been labeled as such just for the mere reason that I take God's word seriously and literally - or because I disagree with them.
      I appreciate your admonition to go to the scriptures and find out what they really say. I asked myself a few years ago what it means when the angel says to God's children to "come out of Babylon". This resulted in a few major changes in my life.
      As to your subject, I do not fear "'justified' retribution" - "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Matt 10:28

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  13. belle, I love your writings, keep up the good study. actually paul did tell us about what religion was 2timothy3--5, but they will deny the one who can save & seal them (holy spirit). its separation time between sheep & goats. c u in heaven!!!

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  14. Just admit you're a shabbos-goyim and be done with it. In easier to explain terms a Zionist.
    You complain about Christians being put upon in the middle east IN MOSLEM countries. But you dare say a word against you masters in Tel Aviv. Where the mere mention of the gospel(s) will land you in jail for 5 years. Or the spitting on and tearing up copies of the new testament by your terrorist Hebrew brothers.
    Just remember this little bit of info. A terrorist country called IsRaEl is funding and caring for ISIS soldiers in the Golan Heights.
    Nuttyyahoo has given his blessing to Al Quada. And announced that ISIS was good for IsRaEl when they first marched into Iraq.
    So your faux pity upon the oldest Christians in the world is just that...fake. You're real god resides in the "gayest" city in the Middle East.......Tel Aviv.

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    1. It is my discernment that the Jewish people are still blinded, and I do not discount their sins or my own, for that matter. Your hostility and anger speaks for itself, and I will pray for your peace.

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    2. Huh? Pray for me? That's rich. These "jews" you protect over your own people are not and have never been entitled to Palestine. These aliens are from Poland, Russia and eastern Europe. In other words re-located Communist.
      They HATE YOU and me. And will use every means possible to genocide Western and European civilization.
      Our ancestors knew about these imposters and parasites that hijack countries. And then turn the people against each other for their personal and financial gain(s).
      So for you not to point the finger at the real culprit(s) of instability in the middle east and world wide. Tells you're audience volumes about you're real intentions.

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  15. Belle,

    PART I

    In answer to your question: So, why is there so much animosity and bitterness when I want to illuminate His Word?

    Because they believe you presume to know something, whereas religionist Christians generally presume not to know much at all that is certain. THIS IS THE PERVASIVE CONDITION OF THE WORLD. It is the veil of darkness over the world. By this shall you know who is who. The following verse is one of the most important in the Bible for understanding the situation in which we exist and is key to many subjects of study and to the question I presented you with a few weeks ago. The last sentence is descriptive of what you are experiencing. You are observing that which seeks to destroy your freedom and understanding. It is embodied in both spirit and flesh. This fact is intentionally hidden from you, as are many other things. (On a side note: Oh my, there are multiple "gods"? Not what I was taught. Who are the wicked here?)

    Ps 82:1-5 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he
    judgeth among the gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and
    accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. Defend the poor and
    fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the
    poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked. THEY (the
    average person in the world, including most Christians) KNOW NOT,
    NEITHER WILL THEY UNDERSTAND; THEY WALK ON IN DARKNESS: ALL THE
    FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH ARE OUT OF COURSE.

    My deep study began when the Spirit communicated to me that I had to understand the depths and breadth of darkness and all its implications. Darkness, in part, is that which is hidden (occulted, secreted) from us. This understanding changed most everything for me including the weight of profoundness of various things taught today. My long study, which will take the rest of my life, I have titled "Darkness and Light - The Revolt Against YHWH - The children of darkness oppress the children of light". In this study, I have come to know that we live in one age out of many, that we are not all created equal (that's not in the Bible, many implications here), that salvation obtained by Yeshuah is an important event of this age, but that we are not to rest on that fact alone, that we occupy a kingdom that is in rebellion and intends to convert us to slaves (and has to a great extent, most do not know how) for its purposes until it has finished with us, that YHWH gave us the law of life (i.e., the economy of God, the system of life) and almost all have rejected it, accepting instead the law of death (the economy of the world and its master, the system of death), that we need to have a view of things across multiple ages, that we are being prepared for offices that are part of a far greater reality than most understand to exist, that YHWH reveals this reality, that thinking all things are settled leads to spiritual laziness and incompetence, and much more. The teaching of no man is superior to the teaching of the Spirit, why then accept it in lieu of the teaching on the truth about all things?

    1Jo 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth
    in you, and YE NEED NOT THAT ANY MAN TEACH YOU: BUT AS THE SAME
    ANOINTING TEACHETH YOU OF ALL THINGS, AND IS TRUTH, AND IS NO LIE,
    AND EVEN AS IT HATH TAUGHT YOU, YE SHALL ABIDE IN HIM.

    Part II to follow.

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  16. PART II

    By putting together many facts and truths, you will come to understand that "the Church" is the source of a great deal of repression, not freedom as it should be. Thinking it through, you will find that "the Church" is not what you think it is. What Yeshuah is building is perfect and incorruptible because it is not built by the activities of men. Otherwise, Yeshuah has no power to speak of here, He can't even build some kind of edifice without it becoming corrupted. Instead it is a spiritual house that is made up of ecclesia (called out ones, lively stones) that separate themselves (their minds especially) from the corruptible. Therefore, who is your brother and sister? Everything in these four dimensions is corruptible and most is corrupted.

    1Pe 2:4-8 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed
    indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, Ye also, as lively
    stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to
    offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
    Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in
    Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and HE THAT BELIEVETH
    ON HIM SHALL NOT BE CONFOUNDED. Unto you therefore which believe
    he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone
    which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the
    corner, AND A STONE OF STUMBLING, AND A ROCK OF OFFENCE, EVEN TO
    THEM WHICH STUMBLE AT THE WORD, BEING DISOBEDIENT: WHEREUNTO ALSO
    THEY WERE APPOINTED.

    PART II below.

    My studies have led me (and others) to reevaluate ALL of our life assumptions and what we have been taught, most of which is wrong. This is the indication of the presence of darkness over all the world (Ps 82, above). One of the things taught in the Church is compromise over the truth, this is a social phenomenon in which control of your mind is acheived through resolving disagreements with those having no understanding (Ps 82, neither will they understand) in order to maintain "fellowship". You need not bend to the pressure.

    2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for
    what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? AND WHAT
    COMMUNION HATH LIGHT WITH DARKNESS?

    Whom does "unbelievers" describe? Anyone who does not seek and accept the whole truth.

    You will notice that I rely on the plain truth of the Bible and plain language, not Christian lingo. The jargon separates people from understanding, especially Christians. They get their teaching from men. Because once you adopt the jargon and join the club, you think you know everything there is to know. Not so.

    TruthWalker
    Pr 22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.

    TruthWalker
    Pr 22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.

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    1. My husband has done some very deep and extensive study on Psalm 82. We consider it to explain the ultimate Biblical pre-election --- not Calvinist doctrine -- when we were pre-host body, spirit beings in Heaven and known by our God before the foundations of the world. He would like to know what your resources are (if any, other than our Bible -- the Hebrew, for instance?) because he feels your discernment is along the same lines.

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    2. Part I

      The "congregation of the mighty" is also known as the counsel of 72 (or 74, there are some translation issues here), the counsel that governs over this region of the creation. Although YHWH established this counsel or allowed it to be established, it is now composed of the highest angels that Lucifer has appointed to the control of the earth and its inhabitants. They control armies of beings at different levels of rank all arrayed against us. They also control three groups of people within these four dimensions. These three groups of people make up about 95-97% of the people on the earth.

      The counsel was originally stationed on the planet Rahab (rah hob not ray hab, fifth planet, name means the proud or prideful ones) until it was destroyed. Job 26:11-14 describes the great destruction, the fact that the serpent and his followers fled before the wrath of YHWH, the Father then constrained the rubble so that it would not completely destroy the surrounding planets (stilled the sea, heavens were made fair), but much damage occurred to the planets either side of Rahab, including possible angelic outposts (the watchers) on Mars and the moon. The word "pierced" in the last verse can be understood better as "constrained". YHWH would not let the rebellious angels return to the higher heavens and locked them into the lower dimensions to await their judgement.

      Job 26:11-14 (ESV) The pillars of heaven tremble and are astounded
      at his rebuke. By his power he stilled the sea; by his
      understanding he shattered Rahab. By his wind the heavens were
      made fair; his hand pierced the fleeing serpent.

      It appears that the counsel was moved in the vicinity of the earth.

      Dr. Michael S. Heiser, has written extensively about the counsel being angels. Zen Garcia, on the other hand, believes similar to what I understand you stated in your reply.

      Mr. Harold O. Pittman -- who is one of the few people that I believe had a true experience of leaving this world, crossing the valley of the shadow of death, entering at least two dimensions (heavens) above these four dimensions, encountering YHWH (but not being allowed to see Him) and then returning -- observed and describes the operation of this counsel. The focus of the counsel is to enrich and empower the wicked (who are they?) and operate under darkness to ensnare, enslave and ultimately make all human beings to reject or ignore the true and living God and live according to the rudiments of the world. Pittman has written several books.

      I believe Mr. David Flynn also understood the congregation of the mighty to be the counsel as described.

      The word used for "gods" is 'eloyihm, which is the term used to refer to the first created beings in the morning of the creation. The first sons of God, angels and their ranks.

      Other sources include the Interlinear Bible, the ESV Bible, Strong's, and others.

      TruthWalker -- reality is far more interesting than fiction.
      Pr 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

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    3. PART II

      There are other sources that I don't recall. This was a settled question for me about 13-14 years ago. Most of all, my resource is the Spirit, who guides me (and others) into all truth. I read and study many things both on the side of darkness and the side of light, much truth is hidden by the side of darkness. The Spirit shows me that which is true, and that which is not. Sometimes, the understanding is developed inside me without reference to other sources. No source validates the Spirit, but the Spirit validates other sources. I liken the process to putting together the grand puzzle of the ages. There are myriad pieces on the table, some belong there, others do not, some still need to be found. When you place a piece into the puzzle, the new piece will add light (akin to understanding) to the puzzle or not. If more light is unlocked, the piece is in its right place and adds to the understanding of the whole puzzle. If no more light is unlocked, the piece either doesn't belong on the table or is in the wrong place, i.e., not understood correctly. The result is not simply discernment (ability to see and judge), but the ability to reason as YHWH would have us reason. To have the wisdom to understand things well beyond what is known from the limited sources in these four dimensions. To see the workings of things across ages before and to come.

      I agree with all of your other points about our pre-incarnation existence as spirits. Zen Garcia writes and speaks on this extensively. Enoch also covers the existance of spirits yet to be incarnated.

      I would like to hear how you came to your understanding of Ps 82.

      TruthWalker -- reality is far more interesting than fiction.
      Pr 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

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    4. PART I -- it appears that this part of my response was not received.

      The "congregation of the mighty" is also known as the counsel of 72 (or 74, there are some translation issues here), the counsel that governs over this region of the creation. Although YHWH established this counsel or allowed it to be established, it is now composed of the highest angels that Lucifer has appointed to the control of the earth and its inhabitants. They control armies of beings at different levels of rank all arrayed against us. They also control three groups of people within these four dimensions. These three groups of people make up about 95-97% of the people on the earth.

      The counsel was originally stationed on the planet Rahab (rah hob not ray hab, fifth planet, name means the proud or prideful ones) until it was destroyed. Job 26:11-14 describes the great destruction, the fact that the serpent and his followers fled before the wrath of YHWH, the Father then constrained the rubble so that it would not completely destroy the surrounding planets (stilled the sea, heavens were made fair), but much damage occurred to the planets either side of Rahab, including possible angelic outposts (the watchers) on Mars and the moon. The word "pierced" in the last verse can be understood better as "constrained". YHWH would not let the rebellious angels return to the higher heavens and locked them into the lower dimensions to await their judgement.

      Job 26:11-14 (ESV) The pillars of heaven tremble and are astounded
      at his rebuke. By his power he stilled the sea; by his
      understanding he shattered Rahab. By his wind the heavens were
      made fair; his hand pierced the fleeing serpent.

      It appears that the counsel was moved in the vicinity of the earth.

      Dr. Michael S. Heiser, has written extensively about the counsel being angels. Zen Garcia, on the other hand, believes similar to what I understand you stated in your reply.

      Mr. Harold O. Pittman -- who is one of the few people that I believe had a true experience of leaving this world, crossing the valley of the shadow of death, entering at least two dimensions (heavens) above these four dimensions, encountering YHWH (but not being allowed to see Him) and then returning -- observed and describes the operation of this counsel. The focus of the counsel is to enrich and empower the wicked (who are they?) and operate under darkness to ensnare, enslave and ultimately make all human beings to reject or ignore the true and living God and live according to the rudiments of the world. Pittman has written several books.

      I believe Mr. David Flynn also understood the congregation of the mighty to be the counsel as described.

      The word used for "gods" is 'eloyihm, which is the term used to refer to the first created beings in the morning of the creation. The first sons of God, angels and their ranks.

      Other sources include the Interlinear Bible, the ESV Bible, Strong's, and others.

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  17. Paul delivered two of his followers to satan for the cause of blasphemy. How much more should we to those who take up the name of Jesus in vain. There is no reason to argue with them. The falling away is now. The itching ears have heaped up teachers. We either follow the spirit or we do not.
    There is hope for everyone, Paul said as much when he put the two out. Refined by love or fire, all are refined.

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  18. Belle,

    Your last couple of posts have been spot on. I am doing a slow clap here for you.....

    rory

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    1. Thanks, Rory! You are refreshing after the response from Anonymous who despises me for my stance on Israel. Their delusion is truly saddening to my soul!

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    2. I am glad you are taking a stand for Israel, I too take a stand for Israel even though a lot do not follow the Christ as the Christ, God will work it out in the end but I believe until He does Israel should be prayed for and stood by. And if people would do a little research they would know that Palestine does not and has never owned the land the say they own of Israel.

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  19. Hi Belle, I feel your exact pain. My wife and I have been searching for months to find a biblical church that's similar to the Church of Acts in the bible. To no avail, we study and seek God at home. You are not alone sister in Christ. Know also the bible speaks of this time of apostasy which would come. Listen to this pastor's sermon when you have the time. It will encourage you!

    10 Indictments Against the Modern Church in America‏
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oul-9fbp1Ak

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  20. the antichrist will reside in Israel. so I imagine there are a few preparing the way. wolves, etc. I read the newerly built supreme court there is filled 2 the brim w/occult symbls. c/o Clinton Ortiz,

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    1. You are right.
      http://www.tribulationinstitute.com/israeli_supremecourt_building.htm

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  21. Hey Mr shaboo Goyim troll boy, No one takes your pro mus anti jew stance serious. Dude time to jump off the hate train or your butts ending up next to a big red jinn. Out!

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    1. Trust me. I'm not pro-Moslem. Just an aware American who has sought out the tormenters of mankind and exposed them as such.
      Check out this list of "Moslems" who control your very life:
      Yellen
      Fischer
      Kagan
      Ginsburg
      Sotomeyer
      Breyer
      Emanuel
      Zuckerburg
      Iger
      Moonves
      Friedman
      Greenspan
      Chertoff
      Fieth
      Krystal
      Todd
      And many, many other "unknowns" who lurk in the halls of power that directly dictate your next breath...literary.
      So go ahead and name call while the political Zionist pit the Western World against those scary Moooslems. All because the Levins, Weiner (Savage), Hewitt, Limbaughs, Gallagher (Stein-something), Cuna or any other "chosen" ones tell you what to believe.
      See, no pro-Moslem anything. Just the facts. Deal with it or submit to their Bronze Aged Noahide insanity.

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  22. How can Satan use something he introduced to Earth in the first place for the purpose of using it against us and God, again. He started out using it against us and God, and religion has been our enemy from the garden in Eden. Satan brought us religion, and Jesus said it is ALL FALSE and is works of the flesh. Religion, by definition, is a teaching about God Almighty that differs from what God Almighty teaches about Himself. They all teach something different as well. None agree on much at all, but they all work against God and man, even their participants are not aware of it. Being part of any religion is to be God's enemy.

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  23. You shouldn't be "despised" for your stance on "Israel," but rather pitied for your apparent lack of knowledge.
    Just because the people who confiscated Palestine are "Jews" and speak "Hebrew" in no manner shape or form makes them Israel.
    Both Josephus and Strabo (eye witnesses) wrote that the majority of "Jews" in the 1st century were Edomites (Idumeans) who converted the the "Jewish" (corrupted) religion circa 120 BC. But they were not the first mass conversion. If "Esther" has any inspired veracity it is Est 8:17.
    The first "Jew"(ess) mentioned in Scripture is Gen 26:34--Jehudith--a Kenite/Canaanite wife of Esau (before Judah was born)
    Jesus said he was sent only "to the lost (apo-like lost in the forest) sheep of the house of Israel" --he did NOT SAY "Jews" This is why he was gone from the land of the Narrative for most of his adult life.
    The Galatians were one group of "gentile" Israel (Gal 4:28) They were celts who sack Rome and settled in central Anatolia ca. 290 BC. Jerome (a native of Dalmatia) says they spoke the same language as that spoken in Trier and the Rhine valley, and similar to Gaelic and Brythonic.
    They acquired the name Galatians (Galateans) from the ancient Greeks who called them this because of the whiteness of their skin. But the Greeks were referring to what we call the Germanic people. It was Julius Ceasar who first used "Germani" (genuine) to distinguish them as the genuine Skuth/Saka, from the eastern Slavs who were emulating them. But "German" wasn't commonly used until the 14th century. Prior to that they were called Alman (and.or variants) Alman is "forsaken" in Hebrew (H488)
    Intersestingly, Galatea ("she who is milk white") has the exact same etymology as Milky way galaxy--which is a classic tautology.
    Therefore my people are gone into captivity (H1540-galah) for lack of knowledge..." Isaiah 5:13
    If you combine the Greek and Hebrew meaning for gala, you get "Therefore my people are milk white exiles"
    But the children of Israel were migrating into Europe even out of Egypt before the Exodus.
    The final deportation of those who had not already emigrated took place in the 8th century BC. See 2Kings chapter 17 and 18:1-13. Those who replaced them are in part what Christians call "God's Chosen," Israel."
    "apple of his eye" etc, etc, and on and on in their delusions.
    Israel rejected the old (flawed) covenant...not the New.

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    1. I agree with some of what you say ... for instance, perhaps the Edomite Jews are the synagogue of Satan that Jesus refers to in Revelation 3:9, but the Bible also makes it clear in Romans that a remnant of Israel will be saved. And that remnant has to come out of all these tribes ... who are we to say who that will be. God HAS chosen, and the simple truth is we don't know everything God does. Just as God will decide to save a remnant, I cannot condemn all Israel as forsaken. We will have to disagree on that point. It would be nice to know specifically on whom the serpent seed rests, but as God told Job, I do not know His "secret councils". It's very unsettling to me to make an announcement on who and who won't be condemned by God. He is the Supreme Judge, not me. Until the day His plan is fulfilled, I will continue to pray for all Israel, that they may be found worthy of His salvation.

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    2. I am so glad you wrote this article. I has been a weird month with the so called "christian community", for us Bible believing Born Again Christians. I spent 5 days on you tube's google plus debating a Anglican Priest in England, who agrees with the Gay agenda. He also believes Genesis is an allegory. Job is a myth. And in evolution. What was so very interesting was his absolute hate for me and in my defense of the Bible. It was almost to the point of the demonic. And on the Charisma website, I run into another "minister" on Disqus. Also spouting the same stuff about God that he was not talking about gay couples, but gay singles and twisting scripture right and left. Im am used to debating atheist and agnostics on the internet. But fake Christians is a little unnerving for me. When they spout all this hate and (LOL) call us intolerant and bigots. Thank you and God Bless you and your husband in your ministry. evolutionvsGod.com

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  24. Thank you for what you do. Some of us want to know all there is to know about God and appreciate the efforts of those who are willing to share it, regardless of the consequences the world dumps on them.

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  25. Dear Belle, thank you for this article! I have also recently come into a greater, deeper understanding of God and His Word, which brings me joy that was missing in my life, before. I have also noticed that most people are not receptive to this new way of seeing, even if they note that I am much happier than before, that there has been a positive change in me. They especially are not interested in any information that has been gotten by the effort of reading, let alone study, and mention of ancient documents makes their eyes roll. My belief about the opposition you have been experiencing to what you share with those around you is this: that they don't want to think. At all. They want their whole lives to run on automatic, on the Default Setting. By introducing these people to greater ideas, you threaten them with expansion of mind and spirit, and they find this frightening. They want to be told what to do. They don't want to think for themselves. They feel fear at even the implication that they may have to separate themselves from the herd and be different. Lemmings, all, yet they deny this. A society of humans behaving like high-level social animals, denying the very abilities that connect them with God. They cannot have faith in God, when they don't make individual decisions. It's all Groupthink. God loves individuals. Satan finds dealing with individuals messy and undesirable, preferring to deal with groups and collectives (and everything that implies), even to the point of our cultural promotion of denial of our individuality (for the good of the whole, you understand), which we also see today. The Lemmings are hypnotized, and willingly so. If you drop a pearl in front of them, run fast away, in case they rend you. If they don't seethe at you, you can drop another pearl. Test your listeners. If they indicate they don't want to listen, shake the dust off your feet, pray for them, and leave them to God, who may have in mind a different way to reach them. In the meantime, there is someone who DOES want to hear what you have learned, and they are waiting for you to get finished with the haters, so you can talk with them. God knows who will love Him and who will not. He is calling His own.

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  26. from what I understand in scripture and more study I do... those believer's become the "spiritual israel" that God speaks about.. there is a reference that just because one is born hebrew & in Israel does not make them Israel.. I did a study on how the church & Israel are not separate. God in the Old testament at one point divorced Israel cause her constant rebellion against his commands. So, these christians who dismiss the one's who were part of the cultivated olive tree & God cut them off as forgotten... fail to realize that they put themselves at danger... cause If God cut off those who were the original tree cause of disobedience.. what would the fate be for the engrafted beleivers who mock them this way... it also states that If Israel does not keep in contiued rebellion that God is able to regraft them back in. I am a hebrew-Israelite, circimcised of the heart... Israel is spiritual, not based on the state or whether you are born a hebrew. the bible states that there is neither jew nor greek, etc,. we are all one in Christ Jesus. I left mainstream christianity and learning more stuff that the bible does say... way too many deceiving pastors out there preaching man-made doctrines or doctrines of demons... there are very few genuine ones who preach all the bible. Those who obey God's laws and commandments are showing the fruit of their salvation... Jesus ultimately saves the soul. The new testament confirms what was already established in the Old testament... the church is not a new testament concept... Paul referred to the ones in the wilderness as the church... neither is grace a new testament concept either it was given way back in the old testament too. Gentiles were always meant to be included in the salvation message... exodus 12:49 is a good start, but other references in the OT & NT that show gentiles were NOT rejected or discouraged from coming to become a hebrew-israelite, etc,. there are many things.. there are 41,000 different denominations, BUT only ONE way... I choose the bible over these 41,000 anyday.. I walked away from man-made doctrines and feel more freer then I ever have... yes it can be hard sometimes.. but all so worth it.

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  27. I am so pleased to have found this site - and I wholeheartedly agree with nearly the entire post and all the insightful comments (for a change!). Here is a point of contention that needs not to be, because the answer is simple - but never considered because of what the false pastors have taught. God made His covenant with all 12 tribes - not to the Jews of Judah. The so-called 'Jews' of today (and in modern Israel) are mostly God-hating atheists who are either not really Jews, or they are of those who cursed themselves when they asked for the blood of Christ to fall upon them and their offspring. We do not pray for the accursed any more than we would pray for the devil and his workers of darkness. True Israel are those who have had their hearts circumcised, who bear the fruit of the Spirit (including speaking the truth) and are led of the Spirit (Romans 8:14). All others are pretenders, and this includes the group-minded 'Lemmings' who have no ears to hear such things.
    God commanded me to 'Write a book!' some time ago, and He finally opened a door this year - and then Author House rejected it at the last because they interpreted these things as being 'anti-Semitic!' So censorship now reigns in the land of the free and truth is not allowed. Neither is it allowed in the Laodicean 'churches' of today, for they are the enemies of Christ and of the Spirit of Truth. I am now seeking an overseas publisher, so the truth will out anyway. (You may want to look for my book in the next couple of months, as it is 'the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.' God has been preparing me for this for 35 years - and the time is now! 'The Time of Jacob's Trouble' by John St. John.) I would welcome dialogue with any of your readers who are of the same mind, as the Lord has taught me so many things that need to be shared. johnstjohn44@hotmail.com

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    1. Hi John,
      I am of the same mind and have been for 20 yrs. This is one of the biggest issues that is and will separate not only the wolves in sheep's clothing in the Jezebelian churches of today but the "mindless robots" within them as well, from those who truly seek the TRUTH for the love of it! As you say "anti Semitic" is one of their weapons to quieten the truth.

      Jeff Forrester
      The Tribulation Institute

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  28. Great article Belle Ringer,
    Yes a battle royale between the true and false church, and it has begun. However, the spirit of Elijah must come first before the authority to smash the Jezebelian church with it prophets of Baal.

    The spirit of Elijah (look at the Two Witnesses in Rev.11) is in them. But who are they. Hint: It is not Elijah, Moses or Enoch.

    Elijah doesn't like false doctrine the prophets of Baal were spewing.
    Readers digest version: God killed them all !!! Jebzebel (false church today same as in OT, Pharisees) came after Elijah, he ran, but Jehu, the King of Judah slew her.

    That will happen again!

    Those whom the spirit of Elijah is rising up in, will come together in the unity of the faith as told in Eph.4:11-17, and become the manchild in Rev.12, and both he and the woman (church who gave birth to him) will become the bride that Christ will return for after the Great Tribulation that purifies her!

    She quits eating things sacrificed unto idols that the false church will not stop eating (false doctrine) and eats Christ's flesh and drinks His blood (true doctrine in the Bible)

    Yahshua in Rev. 2:20-22 says if the church at Thyatira doesn't repent from letting Jezebel teach and seduce his servants to eat things sacrificed unto idols and commit fornication, He will cast them into great tribulation! And Yahshua said in Matt. 24:21-28 what the great tribulation was.

    Pray that ye be accounted worthy to escape the things coming upon the earth (not by a rapture) but by being protected by Yah as you fulfill His plan to make His enemies His footstool so He can return and set up His Kingdom in the earth.

    http://www.meguiar.addr.com/Jezebel_Intro.htm
    http://www.tribulationinstitute.com/spirit_of_elijah_last_days.htm

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  29. Satan inspired all religions of man to be created. He is misleading the entire inhabited earth, and false translations like KJV for example, and ALL religions of man are mainly how he does it.

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